If you could, would you abolish taxes?

[AFB]

Not modify it, but get rid of it all together? You would also suffer it's effects and benefits

Edit: Yes I know, stupid question, but I want to see who truly picks yes.

 

[Infohawk]

Unless you're really extreme most people want government services. Taxes are a great way to pay for them. You might differ on the form of the taxes, but taxes in themselves are a pretty good system.

 

[charrison]

taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

 

[miketheidiot]

"taxes are the price we pay for civilization"

 

[her209]

Why should the government be responsible for creating jobs?

 

[Isla]

No. They help to create and maintain the infrastructures of our communities, and they provide assistance to those who need it. And we all need it, sometime.

 

[huberm]

income tax is my biggest bill each month....i pay more on income taxes than I do for rent even. I feel this tax creates an undue burden on the entire middle and lower class band of citizens.

I agree taxes are required, but should not be taxed solely on income. Working does not create a profit for someone, it is merely an exchange of services.

'The average person works for about 4 months out of the year just to fulfill their tax burden. This is outrageous. What sucks even more is we can't really do anything about it. Our nation has grown too powerful for citizens to revolt against the government. We're basically screwed, just remember to keep a steady supply of vasoline handy for tax time.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

I agree.

CsG

 

[judasmachine]

I would radically restructure it, but would most certainly not do away with it. I at this exact moment do not have an idea exactly how, but this current system just doesn't work.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

Property should be done away with as well

Property tax should be the funding of the military, unless in emergency.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

Why? What is you philosophical basis for preferring sales tax to income tax? Is it because you prefer regressive taxation, or are there other factors? This isn't a flame; I'd like to understand where you're coming from.

 

[HalosPuma]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Not modify it, but get rid of it all together? You would also suffer it's effects and benefits

Edit: Yes I know, stupid question, but I want to see who truly picks yes.

Nope. There are basic functions that our defined in our Constitution and also reserved for the states that government is allowed to perform. Some of them include: postal roads, a navy, the militia in times of war.

 

[gutharius]

Waiting for dissipate to post on this...

 

[dgevert]

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

That would result in an unfair distribution on taxes/unfair burden placed on those who can't afford it.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

That would put an unfair burden on the the lower wage earners and increase the gap between the rich and the poor. The only way this would be fair is if there is a sliding scale of credits given to low income people, given as a percentage of income.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

That would put an unfair burden on the the lower wage earners and increase the gap between the rich and the poor. The only way this would be fair is if there is a sliding scale of credits given to low income people, given as a percentage of income.

This country ran for almost 150 without an income tax. Rmember sales taxes and property taxes are all voluntary, i e the consumer get to decide when and how much tax they are going to pay. INcome taxes are also a loss of free privacy and freedon for citizens.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

That would put an unfair burden on the the lower wage earners and increase the gap between the rich and the poor. The only way this would be fair is if there is a sliding scale of credits given to low income people, given as a percentage of income.

This country ran for almost 150 without an income tax. Rmember sales taxes and property taxes are all voluntary, i e the consumer get to decide when and how much tax they are going to pay. INcome taxes are also a loss of free privacy and freedon for citizens.

Don't kid your self with this voluntary junk. You have no choice. If you want to purchase a service. You have to pay it. That's not voluntary. Everyone has to purchase goods and services, therefore everyone has to pay. All this does is require poorer people to pay a higher percentage of thier taxes versus wealthier people that don't need to spend all thier money.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

That would put an unfair burden on the the lower wage earners and increase the gap between the rich and the poor. The only way this would be fair is if there is a sliding scale of credits given to low income people, given as a percentage of income.

This country ran for almost 150 without an income tax. Rmember sales taxes and property taxes are all voluntary, i e the consumer get to decide when and how much tax they are going to pay. INcome taxes are also a loss of free privacy and freedon for citizens.

Don't kid your self with this voluntary junk. You have no choice. If you want to purchase a service. You have to pay it. That's not voluntary. Everyone has to purchase goods and services, therefore everyone has to pay. All this does is require poorer people to pay a higher percentage of thier taxes versus wealthier people that don't need to spend all thier money.

For most items there would be a choice on how much and if tax is paid. I have little problem with food/basics being left off the taxable items.

 

[imported_tss4]

So let me get this straight, you propose that I get to choose whether I pay any tax on an item? Well, I choose none then and I'm willing to bet that another 250 million americans will do the same.

You should take a look at game theory.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: charrison
sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

What is an example of a successful use fee?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

That would put an unfair burden on the the lower wage earners and increase the gap between the rich and the poor. The only way this would be fair is if there is a sliding scale of credits given to low income people, given as a percentage of income.

This country ran for almost 150 without an income tax. Rmember sales taxes and property taxes are all voluntary, i e the consumer get to decide when and how much tax they are going to pay. INcome taxes are also a loss of free privacy and freedon for citizens.

Don't kid your self with this voluntary junk. You have no choice. If you want to purchase a service. You have to pay it. That's not voluntary. Everyone has to purchase goods and services, therefore everyone has to pay. All this does is require poorer people to pay a higher percentage of thier taxes versus wealthier people that don't need to spend all thier money.

For most items there would be a choice on how much and if tax is paid. I have little problem with food/basics being left off the taxable items.

So how does affect the amount of taxes paid in fact?

How will the tax burden shift? Remember if you do away with income taxes, sales taxes will skyrocket.

Most purchasing is done not by the wealthy, but on the middle and lower economic classes. At some income point, there is a break even point and from there up, most people of that income and up benefit. Those below it suffer. That might as well be the intent, because it's certainly the result. Of course it's good for the economy to price goods out of reach too. :roll:

It is they who will bear the brunt, who can least afford it. Unless there is some sliding scale, then the poor get poorer, and the rich get richer even faster.

The peasants have no bread, so let them eat cake!

Another regressive tax scheme.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

That would put an unfair burden on the the lower wage earners and increase the gap between the rich and the poor. The only way this would be fair is if there is a sliding scale of credits given to low income people, given as a percentage of income.

This country ran for almost 150 without an income tax. Rmember sales taxes and property taxes are all voluntary, i e the consumer get to decide when and how much tax they are going to pay. INcome taxes are also a loss of free privacy and freedon for citizens.

Don't kid your self with this voluntary junk. You have no choice. If you want to purchase a service. You have to pay it. That's not voluntary. Everyone has to purchase goods and services, therefore everyone has to pay. All this does is require poorer people to pay a higher percentage of thier taxes versus wealthier people that don't need to spend all thier money.

For most items there would be a choice on how much and if tax is paid. I have little problem with food/basics being left off the taxable items.

So how does affect the amount of taxes paid in fact?

How will the tax burden shift? Remember if you do away with income taxes, sales taxes will skyrocket.

Most purchasing is done not by the wealthy, but on the middle and lower economic classes. At some income point, there is a break even point and from there up, most people of that income and up benefit. Those below it suffer. That might as well be the intent, because it's certainly the result. Of course it's good for the economy to price goods out of reach too. :roll:

It is they who will bear the brunt, who can least afford it. Unless there is some sliding scale, then the poor get poorer, and the rich get richer even faster.

The peasants have no bread, so let them eat cake!

Another regressive tax scheme.

And while only a few pay the taxes of this country, the rest will continue to vote themselves the treasury. The cost of goverment must be carried by in a fair manner.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

That would put an unfair burden on the the lower wage earners and increase the gap between the rich and the poor. The only way this would be fair is if there is a sliding scale of credits given to low income people, given as a percentage of income.

This country ran for almost 150 without an income tax. Rmember sales taxes and property taxes are all voluntary, i e the consumer get to decide when and how much tax they are going to pay. INcome taxes are also a loss of free privacy and freedon for citizens.

Don't kid your self with this voluntary junk. You have no choice. If you want to purchase a service. You have to pay it. That's not voluntary. Everyone has to purchase goods and services, therefore everyone has to pay. All this does is require poorer people to pay a higher percentage of thier taxes versus wealthier people that don't need to spend all thier money.

For most items there would be a choice on how much and if tax is paid. I have little problem with food/basics being left off the taxable items.

So how does affect the amount of taxes paid in fact?

How will the tax burden shift? Remember if you do away with income taxes, sales taxes will skyrocket.

Most purchasing is done not by the wealthy, but on the middle and lower economic classes. At some income point, there is a break even point and from there up, most people of that income and up benefit. Those below it suffer. That might as well be the intent, because it's certainly the result. Of course it's good for the economy to price goods out of reach too. :roll:

It is they who will bear the brunt, who can least afford it. Unless there is some sliding scale, then the poor get poorer, and the rich get richer even faster.

The peasants have no bread, so let them eat cake!

Another regressive tax scheme.

And while only a few pay the taxes of this country, the rest will continue to vote themselves the treasury. The cost of goverment must be carried by in a fair manner.

Who's voting themselves the treasury? The last tax reform bill benifited the upper middle class to wealthy the most. I think they're quite capable of voicing their opinion. I'm sure most people would traded places with them in a heart beat despite the tax strife they overcome. And speaking from the upper middle class, I can tell you that the tax demands places on me aren't bad at all. I don't feel unfairly treated. But perhaps that's because I grew up poor so I realize what it takes to overcome socio economic disadvatage.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

That would put an unfair burden on the the lower wage earners and increase the gap between the rich and the poor. The only way this would be fair is if there is a sliding scale of credits given to low income people, given as a percentage of income.

This country ran for almost 150 without an income tax. Rmember sales taxes and property taxes are all voluntary, i e the consumer get to decide when and how much tax they are going to pay. INcome taxes are also a loss of free privacy and freedon for citizens.

Don't kid your self with this voluntary junk. You have no choice. If you want to purchase a service. You have to pay it. That's not voluntary. Everyone has to purchase goods and services, therefore everyone has to pay. All this does is require poorer people to pay a higher percentage of thier taxes versus wealthier people that don't need to spend all thier money.

For most items there would be a choice on how much and if tax is paid. I have little problem with food/basics being left off the taxable items.

So how does affect the amount of taxes paid in fact?

How will the tax burden shift? Remember if you do away with income taxes, sales taxes will skyrocket.

Most purchasing is done not by the wealthy, but on the middle and lower economic classes. At some income point, there is a break even point and from there up, most people of that income and up benefit. Those below it suffer. That might as well be the intent, because it's certainly the result. Of course it's good for the economy to price goods out of reach too. :roll:

It is they who will bear the brunt, who can least afford it. Unless there is some sliding scale, then the poor get poorer, and the rich get richer even faster.

The peasants have no bread, so let them eat cake!

Another regressive tax scheme.

And while only a few pay the taxes of this country, the rest will continue to vote themselves the treasury. The cost of goverment must be carried by in a fair manner.

Who's voting themselves the treasury? The last tax reform bill benifited the upper middle class to wealthy the most. I think they're quite capable of voicing their opinion. I'm sure most people would traded places with them in a heart beat despite the tax strife they overcome. And speaking from the upper middle class, I can tell you that the tax demands places on me aren't bad at all. I don't feel unfairly treated. But perhaps that's because I grew up poor so I realize what it takes to overcome socio economic disadvatage.

Who is voting all the spending?

Speaking from the upper middle class, I can tell you taxes are too high.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: tss4

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: charrison
taxes are a needed evil.

The income tax should be done away with.
Property should be done away with as well(however people do get to choose their level of taxation).

sales tax and use fees should be the main vehicle of taxation.

That would put an unfair burden on the the lower wage earners and increase the gap between the rich and the poor. The only way this would be fair is if there is a sliding scale of credits given to low income people, given as a percentage of income.

This country ran for almost 150 without an income tax. Rmember sales taxes and property taxes are all voluntary, i e the consumer get to decide when and how much tax they are going to pay. INcome taxes are also a loss of free privacy and freedon for citizens.

Don't kid your self with this voluntary junk. You have no choice. If you want to purchase a service. You have to pay it. That's not voluntary. Everyone has to purchase goods and services, therefore everyone has to pay. All this does is require poorer people to pay a higher percentage of thier taxes versus wealthier people that don't need to spend all thier money.

For most items there would be a choice on how much and if tax is paid. I have little problem with food/basics being left off the taxable items.

So how does affect the amount of taxes paid in fact?

How will the tax burden shift? Remember if you do away with income taxes, sales taxes will skyrocket.

Most purchasing is done not by the wealthy, but on the middle and lower economic classes. At some income point, there is a break even point and from there up, most people of that income and up benefit. Those below it suffer. That might as well be the intent, because it's certainly the result. Of course it's good for the economy to price goods out of reach too. :roll:

It is they who will bear the brunt, who can least afford it. Unless there is some sliding scale, then the poor get poorer, and the rich get richer even faster.

The peasants have no bread, so let them eat cake!

Another regressive tax scheme.

And while only a few pay the taxes of this country, the rest will continue to vote themselves the treasury. The cost of goverment must be carried by in a fair manner.

Who's voting themselves the treasury? The last tax reform bill benifited the upper middle class to wealthy the most. I think they're quite capable of voicing their opinion. I'm sure most people would traded places with them in a heart beat despite the tax strife they overcome. And speaking from the upper middle class, I can tell you that the tax demands places on me aren't bad at all. I don't feel unfairly treated. But perhaps that's because I grew up poor so I realize what it takes to overcome socio economic disadvatage.

Who is voting all the spending?

Speaking from the upper middle class, I can tell you taxes are too high.

Do you think the poor is lobbying for all the pork barrel?

And you think your taxes are too high so you want to make the poor pay more? I understand if you want to reduce government spending so we all pay less, but to make those allready struggling (and there not all slackers as my family can attest too) pay even more is damaging to society and is morally suspect.