If you could LOSE any previous president...

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BBond

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JustAnAverageGuy's thread on which president you would choose made me start thinking about which president I would lose if I could choose one. So I'm asking, if you had a choice of any one president, which on would you lose???

I'd pick Bush because he is without a doubt the worst president in American history.

 
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Originally posted by: BBond
JustAnAverageGuy's thread on which president you would choose made me start thinking about which president I would lose if I could choose one. So I'm asking, if you had a choice of any one president, which on would you lose???

I'd pick Bush because he is without a doubt the worst president in American history.
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Just about anyone between Andrew Johnson and McKinley/TR was pretty much worthless.
 
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Maybe Clinton, not sure. during his administration, terrorism grew and grew and nothing was done. it showed its face on 9/11.
 
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i wouldnt lose clinton, he did a decent job.

lgj was an utter failure, he got us into vietnam and passed all his stupid social programs. I'd probably get rid of him.
 
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Originally posted by: jtusa4
Clinton, he turned the presidency into a joke.
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Please... the only joke was that anyone cared who was under his desk. Many previous and great Presidents have had mistresses while in office before Clinton (FDR for example). Sometimes, just finding the best man to run the country is important enough that's it's not a bad thing to overlook a couple of minor character flaws. Otherwise, who the hell would really want that crappy job? Would you? Not me, I know that. And look who we're stuck with. Sure, he doesn't get head in the Oval Office (that we know of), but he isn't doing a very good job of running the country either.

My vote would actually go to LBJ as well. Except for getting the Civil Rights Act through, he screwed our country up one side and down the other. Would have been better had Kennedy lived.
 
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: jtusa4
Clinton, he turned the presidency into a joke.
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Please... the only joke was that anyone cared who was under his desk. Many previous and great Presidents have had mistresses while in office before Clinton (FDR for example). Sometimes, just finding the best man to run the country is important enough that's it's not a bad thing to overlook a couple of minor character flaws. Otherwise, who the hell would really want that crappy job? Would you? Not me, I know that. And look who we're stuck with. Sure, he doesn't get head in the Oval Office (that we know of), but he isn't doing a very good job of running the country either.

My vote would actually go to LBJ as well. Except for getting the Civil Rights Act through, he screwed our country up one side and down the other. Would have been better had Kennedy lived.
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Did I mention anything about Monica? No, you must be the one who's preoccupied with it when hearing Clinton mentioned.
 
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Grant comes to the top of my mind. Didn't he bring his whole extended family into his administration?

Now when you say lose a president, who would replace him?
 
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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Grant comes to the top of my mind. Didn't he bring his whole extended family into his administration?

Now when you say lose a president, who would replace him?
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I'm assuming the OP implies they would just be replaced with an empty void...sorta like what's gonna happen if Kerry wins :)
 
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Clinton.

terrorism grew
tech bubble grew and burst during his presidency
downsized our military
castrated our intelligence agencies
had sexual misadventures in the oval orfice, bringing shame and humiliation to the Presidency
a bold faced liar [or typical politician, whichever you choose]
involved in numerous scandals, before and during Presidency
draft dodger
 
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Originally posted by: jtusa4
Did I mention anything about Monica? No, you must be the one who's preoccupied with it when hearing Clinton mentioned.
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What else could you have been talking about? Asides from the Monica incident, the rest of Clinton's presidency is regarded as quite exceptional. Sound policy, both at home and abroad, he came to office at the end of a nasty recession and led through 8 solid years of economic prosperity. Even managed to balance the budget 2 years in a row, when a weaker president would have used the increased revenues to keep spending into the red.
He was by no means perfect, and I would have liked to see some changes, but overall the 90s were good times led by a capable president (despite the idiot rantings on the talk radio). Even my diehard Republican friends admit he was almost on par with Reagan. Blaming 9/11 on him is simply having 20/20 hindsight. Before it happened, no one thought the terrorists capable of that kind of attack.
 
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BBond

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Are you talking about Bush Sr.? The W isn't a previous president yet.
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Let's ammend that title to include W. Which of any of our presidents would you lose?

As for who you would replace them with, you can post your opinion on that too if you like.

 
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Originally posted by: Genesys
Clinton.

terrorism grew
tech bubble grew and burst during his presidency
downsized our military
castrated our intelligence agencies
had sexual misadventures in the oval orfice, bringing shame and humiliation to the Presidency
a bold faced liar [or typical politician, whichever you choose]
involved in numerous scandals, before and during Presidency
draft dodger
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:roll:

You realize George W. Bush is just as much as draft dodger as Bill Clinton, right? One's the fortunate son, the other gets college deferment. But being the fortunate son is okay while the college deferment is not, right? <^>

As for the rest, let's just say that I don't think the President should have so much control over the markets and the economy that he could actually prevent something like the tech bubble, as it would be a obvious goverment intrusion into the free marketplace. But maybe I only feel that way because I saw it for what it was early, sold before the top, and think you fools who didn't see it coming got what fools deserve.
"Wow, my stock in that company that has never made one dime of profit is up to $200/share! What should I do?"
"Oh, hold on to that one. Hell, buy even more shares, it's going higher! There's a bright future ahead for a company swimming in a sea of red!"
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Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Taft. That bastard.
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Yaknow, you're right. That fat son of a bitch passed the 16th Amendment (income taxes).

:|
 
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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Taft. That bastard.
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Yaknow, you're right. That fat son of a bitch passed the 16th Amendment (income taxes).

:|
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the democrats' HERO!
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The Republican's hero as well. Actually, make that the hero of everyone in government.
 
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