If you could get ATI, NV and MS in a room

[WelshBloke]

what would you want them to impliment in the near future?

For me it would have to be proper multi monitor support.

I'd like to set up multiple displays the way I want them then for it to be transparent to the OS, so all full screen apps (including 3d games) would span across all monitors.

I'd like the option for my task bar to span all monitors.

I'd like custom resolutions not to be a pain in the arse to set up.



So what would you guys like?

 

[Krynj]

nV to admit they're idiots and aren't trustworthy.

 

[AzN]

Nvidia
Stop releasing the same card 5 times.

AMD
Make a bigger version of RV770 and I might bite.

 

[OCGuy]

nV - Take better care of your board partners, they are your lifeline. Stop wasting money on beating ATi in every segment performance wise, and only worry about low/mid/high. Having multiple mid-range cards that cannibalize the high end is retarded.

ATi - I really hope you make it to 2011. I dont want my next video card to be $650 again. Great job on bringing down the prices of this gen. Also, your fanbois Charlie and the 1st reply in this thread make you look bad.

M$- DX11!!!!

 

[Krynj]

I'm no ATI fanboy. I used to be strictly nVidia for years. I had an old Radeon back in the day that burned up after a few months. After that, I'd never bought ATI again until the 4870s were the absolute best bang for the buck.

How can you not label a company as idiotic and untrustworthy when they're doing what nVidia's been doing? Pulling the wool over their customer's eyes, rebadging old cards, and refusing to release their new cards to review sites for accurate trusted benchmarks? nVidia is obviously feeling the blow ATI dealt to them over the last year. They're trying to stay afloat, but doing it terribly.

I too hope to see ATI around in the next couple years. It'd make their huge success in the last couple years all for naught. Intel needs to hurry up and get into the GPU game to fire up another price war.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: FetusCakeMix
I'm no ATI fanboy. I used to be strictly nVidia for years. I had an old Radeon back in the day that burned up after a few months. After that, I'd never bought ATI again until the 4870s were the absolute best bang for the buck.

How can you not label a company as idiotic and untrustworthy when they're doing what nVidia's been doing? Pulling the wool over their customer's eyes, rebadging old cards, and refusing to release their new cards to review sites for accurate trusted benchmarks? nVidia is obviously feeling the blow ATI dealt to them over the last year. They're trying to stay afloat, but doing it terribly.

I too hope to see ATI around in the next couple years. It'd make their huge success in the last couple years all for naught. Intel needs to hurry up and get into the GPU game to fire up another price war.

What blow is that? They are selling the GT200 for less than they wanted (which is a benefit for all of us, and I thanked ATi for that). However, the market share numbers are still good for nV, and they have the top performing cards. Also, they are cash rich, while AMD is debt rich and has a real chance of being bought out or failing.

The recent drop in nV profits was due to the economy as much as anything. The same reason ATi only managed a profit in 1 quarter last year (I think?), even with the success of 4XXX.

I believe nV has bigger problems with Intel right now than with AMD. (Lawsuit)

 

[Krynj]

That blow would be offering up great value cards that were competing with nVidia's heavy hitters. They have to sell the GT2000 for less than they wanted to, because again, ATi's incredible price/performance ratio.

nVidia's massive profit loss is definitely attributed to the economy, and once more, ATi's 4xxx series.

Either way, nV certainly has a lot on their plate. It's tough times for everybody right now, and I don't imagine their fight with Intel is making things any easier.

 

[WelshBloke]

Wow that decended into an ATI Vs NV knockdown pretty quickly.

I was hoping to avoid that

I was more interested in what features youd all want, irrespective of which company was making it.

Cards getting faster are a given, and hopefully lower power too.

 

[mmnno]

Color aware OS or graphics card, damnit.

 

[Munky]

I'd tell all 3 to come up with a standard implementation of Physics modeling and GPGPU, so that stuff "just works." I'm tired of having to chose between competing proprietary technologies.

 

[thilanliyan]

I want them to decide on one type of stream computing and physics approach.

For nV, allow SLI on more than just their chipsets...I won't buy an nV motherboard.

For ATI, quieter coolers that cool well...nV can do it so they can too.

Also, for multi-gpu, I want them to act as one monster GPU (I don't know if it's possible but I'd like to see it).

 

[crazylegs]

Originally posted by: WelshBloke
For me it would have to be proper multi monitor support.

I'd like to set up multiple displays the way I want them then for it to be transparent to the OS, so all full screen apps (including 3d games) would span across all monitors.

I'd like the option for my task bar to span all monitors.

I'll second that.

 

[Denithor]

Originally posted by: WelshBloke
what would you want them to impliment in the near future?

For me it would have to be proper multi monitor support.

I'd like to set up multiple displays the way I want them then for it to be transparent to the OS, so all full screen apps (including 3d games) would span across all monitors.

I'd like the option for my task bar to span all monitors.

I'd like custom resolutions not to be a pain in the arse to set up.

Buy one of these.

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: Denithor

Originally posted by: WelshBloke
what would you want them to impliment in the near future?

For me it would have to be proper multi monitor support.

I'd like to set up multiple displays the way I want them then for it to be transparent to the OS, so all full screen apps (including 3d games) would span across all monitors.

I'd like the option for my task bar to span all monitors.

I'd like custom resolutions not to be a pain in the arse to set up.

Buy one of these.

Why cant it be done by the OS and vid card drivers?

Also IIRC the triplehead to go needs identical monitors and low res ones at that. (although I could be wrong)

 

[mmnno]

Originally posted by: WelshBloke

Originally posted by: Denithor

Originally posted by: WelshBloke
what would you want them to impliment in the near future?

For me it would have to be proper multi monitor support.

I'd like to set up multiple displays the way I want them then for it to be transparent to the OS, so all full screen apps (including 3d games) would span across all monitors.

I'd like the option for my task bar to span all monitors.

I'd like custom resolutions not to be a pain in the arse to set up.

Buy one of these.

Why cant it be done by the OS and vid card drivers?

Also IIRC the triplehead to go needs identical monitors and low res ones at that. (although I could be wrong)

It can do 3x 1680x1050, they don't have to be identical. Of course it's much better if they are mostly identical.

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: mmnno

Originally posted by: WelshBloke

Originally posted by: Denithor

Originally posted by: WelshBloke
what would you want them to impliment in the near future?

For me it would have to be proper multi monitor support.

I'd like to set up multiple displays the way I want them then for it to be transparent to the OS, so all full screen apps (including 3d games) would span across all monitors.

I'd like the option for my task bar to span all monitors.

I'd like custom resolutions not to be a pain in the arse to set up.

Buy one of these.

Why cant it be done by the OS and vid card drivers?

Also IIRC the triplehead to go needs identical monitors and low res ones at that. (although I could be wrong)

It can do 3x 1680x1050, they don't have to be identical. Of course it's much better if they are mostly identical.

Yeah I meant the same res.

I dont see why it would be so difficult to do in the drivers though, theres a softTH so im sure NV/ATI could do a better job working with MS.

 

[NoStateofMind]

ATi - Force their partners to provide lifetime support and step up programs.

NVIDIA - No more "rebranding" of the same product.

Microsoft - I want diagnostic utilities built into Windows 7 (burn in test, video testing etc). Fan speeds, CPU/GPU temps, voltages etc. (something like Everest which identifies each component in the unit)

 

[Tempered81]

nv to man up and release new tech, quit being greedy.

ms to deliver a performance os.

ati to build a full fledged rv770 big with tmus etc maxxed out.

all three to work together on driver support and safeguarding the future of pc gaming.

 

[ultralord910]

MS: Don't disappoint me with Windows 7

NV: Start bringing out proper high end GPUs like 8800GTX, no dual gpu cards, stop rebranding and bringout out so many SKUs

ATI: Work on your drivers to match Nvidia's quality and feature set, especially crossfire and mobile GPU support

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: munky
I'd tell all 3 to come up with a standard implementation of Physics modeling and GPGPU, so that stuff "just works." I'm tired of having to chose between competing proprietary technologies.

There you wreck a good thread with thinking.......... It will just get the rest of us thinking that in these times they may cooperate and be honest.

 

[SickBeast]

I would tell MS to focus on efficiency, and to focus on open standards when it comes to things like Office and PDFs.

NV should stop wasting time on CUDA as a proprietary standard, port it to DX11, and just make everything DX compatible from now on.

AMD needs to really ramp up their GPGPU stuff, and hopefully work on an open standard with NV.

MS is the worst of the 3 by far IMO.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: WelshBloke
For me it would have to be proper multi monitor support.

I'd like to set up multiple displays the way I want them then for it to be transparent to the OS, so all full screen apps (including 3d games) would span across all monitors.

Same here. And for games to quit fvcking with my screen resolution which then makes my desktop lose its mind and forget how all my shortcut links were arranged.

I mean seriously how difficult is it for an OS to enable the user to manage and dictate whether a game is going to be full-screen or in a window (I cannot for the life of me get my games to stop jacking me around on this) and if full-screen what is wrong with the game thinking it is being played at 800x600 or whatever I like but have the freaken vid card scale it up to my LCD's native resolution so my system's resolution is not changed and all wonky when I switch from a game to another application.

In other words I'd like my fracking multi-tasking multi-monitor environment to actually function with my games as if I were multi-tasking in a multi-monitor environment. I've had dual-screens now for more than a decade and still MS can pull their shit together and get this done? Really? Going on 11 years here microsoft, hello? Anyone still have a pulse up there in Redmond?

 

[AmdInside]

I want both companies to do HDTV right. Put a damn dongle at the end where you can program the EDID if you must but just get it to work right.

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: AmdInside
I want both companies to do HDTV right. Put a damn dongle at the end where you can program the EDID if you must but just get it to work right.

Whats the problem with HDTV now? Its only two resolutions it cant be that difficult.

 

[imported_Asianman]

Standardize stuff like outputs and get MS to stop relying on the failure of other OS companies and start doing more work
Also, work together to sue intel