If you can't measure it, it's not a requirement!

Zenmervolt

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And this is why you don't let the business write a project's foundational documents (with my commentary in parentheses):

Design Criteria:
- Drives a performance culture based upon accountability at all levels in the organization.

(What the fvck does this mean? How is it measured? What defines a "performance culture"? For what are "all levels" accountable?)

- Has integrity and is perceived to be fairly and equitably administered; ensures calibration of ratings application within and across groups.

(Define "integrity". How on earth can any system anywhere ever hope to control the perceptions of all users? How are perceptions measured? Since calibration is an offline process performed by managers in closed-door sessions, how can the system possibly ensure that this happens correctly?)

- Captures an individual's performance contribution, such that performance is clearly differentiated using agreed guidelines for performance distribution and a value can be placed on it so that it can be translated into an individual reward via separate compensation processes.

(Translation: Is scored numerically. Also, managers perform the scoring, not the system, so it is the managers' responsibility to ensure appropriate distribution of scores, not the system's.)

- Measures an individual's performance separate and apart from company performance, yet tightly aligns individual performance objectives to company strategy, such that the aggregate company performance results would naturally correlate with the aggregate individual performance distribution.

(Separate and apart? Is there some new science of which I am unaware that allows two entities to be separate but not apart? Also, aggregate individual performance will always correlate with company performance; whether negative or positive, there will always be at least some correlation. What you mean is that you want aggregate individual performance to be positively correlated with company performance. Of course, we're still missing any measurable means to determine whether this criterion has been met.)

- Incorporates the results an individual achieves (the "what") and the value-based behavioral actions that the individual takes (the "how") into the individual's overall performance assessment.

(Translation: Allows evaluation of an employee's behavior as well as his or her results. Still doesn't provide a model for doing this. How should it incorporate behavioral evaluation? A numeric rating? A percentage modifier? A free-text field?)

- Includes a component focused on an individual's personal development.

(What sort of component? A free text field? A drop-down list of choices for areas of improvement? A drop-down list of choices for areas of excellence? A list of classes integrated with the Learning Management System?)

- Ensures that individuals will be able to impact their personal objectives by recognizing the variation in role/level on the ability to impact company performance.

(What the hell? There are a few individuals whom I would love to see "impact" something at high speed by this point. Translation: People at higher levels of the organization should have their individual goals weighted less and the company's performance weighted more. Even with the translation, there needs to be firm definition of what the individual/company split percentages should be, how many ranges there should be, and how a person is determined to fall within a specific range.)

- Clearly defines participant roles in the process.

(The system needs to do this? Shouldn't your training cover this sort of process issue? Hardly in scope for system design.)

- Is easy to understand and more user-friendly than the current system.

(The current system is a fustercluck of MS Word documents with no standardization. What metrics will be used to define whether the new system is more or less user-friendly? Flexibility? Systematization necessarily limits flexibility; in fact, standardizing the process to eliminate the ability of "rogue managers" to do their own thing is one of the stated reasons for starting this project. Those "rogue managers" will certainly not think the new system is "user friendly" as it will force them to match the corporate standard process. We need to know the specific metrics that will be used to determine whether the system is user-friendly and those metrics must be both measurable and entirely objective.)



*sigh*

ZV
 

yllus

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Holy Vishnu! That's a really awful project requirements document. I'm guessing the reason it came out like that was:

a) They have no idea what they actually want, so they tried to make it sound like everything and nothing all at once,

b) They decided to make you (re)write the requirements document for them because a proper doc would take them too much time/effort.

I don't think there necessarily needs to be specific rules laid out in this document if this is the first-ever definition of the project, but that's just a pile of garbage right now. Sometimes I'm really glad I'm usually the project lieutenant, not the project leader.
 

Tea Bag

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BILLY MAYS HERE WITH BULLSHIT UN-QUANTIFIABLE REQUIREMENTS! DO YOU HATE JUMPING THROUGH HOOPS ADHERING TO STANDARDS THAT ARE OUTDATED AND USED IN A LAME ATTEMPT TO GRADE YOUR PERFORMANCE? WELL I'VE GOT THE SOLUTION FOR YOU - MENTALLY CHECK OUT OF YOUR JOB! ACT NOW AND I'LL THROW IN THIS WEBBROWSER THAT YOU CAN USE TO ASSIST YOU IN PHONING IN THE REST OF YOUR CAREER! THAT'S THE POWER OF THE INTERNET!
 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: Tea Bag
BILLY MAYS HERE WITH BULLSHIT UN-QUANTIFIABLE REQUIREMENTS! DO YOU HATE JUMPING THROUGH HOOPS ADHERING TO STANDARDS THAT ARE OUTDATED AND USED IN A LAME ATTEMPT TO GRADE YOUR PERFORMANCE? WELL I'VE GOT THE SOLUTION FOR YOU - MENTALLY CHECK OUT OF YOUR JOB! ACT NOW AND I'LL THROW IN THIS WEBBROWSER THAT YOU CAN USE TO ASSIST YOU IN PHONING IN THE REST OF YOUR CAREER! THAT'S THE POWER OF THE INTERNET!

:laugh:
 

AreaCode707

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Man, working with HR people to define system requirements is the worst, isn't it?

Italicizing your comments would make the OP more readable. :p
 

Nik

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Arg! "his or her" is not grammatically correct. It's too verbose. "Their" is the proper vernacular. :p

Sorry, pet peeve :evil:
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Tea Bag
BILLY MAYS HERE WITH BULLSHIT UN-QUANTIFIABLE REQUIREMENTS! DO YOU HATE JUMPING THROUGH HOOPS ADHERING TO STANDARDS THAT ARE OUTDATED AND USED IN A LAME ATTEMPT TO GRADE YOUR PERFORMANCE? WELL I'VE GOT THE SOLUTION FOR YOU - MENTALLY CHECK OUT OF YOUR JOB! ACT NOW AND I'LL THROW IN THIS WEBBROWSER THAT YOU CAN USE TO ASSIST YOU IN PHONING IN THE REST OF YOUR CAREER! THAT'S THE POWER OF THE INTERNET!

nice
 

nakedfrog

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Oh, yeah, Pointy Haired Boss also said he told them you could have it done next month, and under budget.
 

BoomerD

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That shit sounds like it was written by a philosophy major...or the sales department...
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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So, what's the back story? You're supposed to design a software package, write a business strategy, write a performance metric or algorithm? What you posted, without a framework or overview, signifies nothing. I like waffles.
 

StageLeft

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All the stuff from your first post is the kind of thing I regularly email back and forth to my brother and we laugh about how completely meaningless it is. Just a circle jerk of vapid business terms that cannot possibly be actionable (another one, I suppose) in any way.

In the end, though, as long as we're all aligned with solution-finding and not blame-storming, and we're empowering the end users to strengthen the company's culture and strive toward brand deliverance, we're doing the right thing, aren't we?
 

PingSpike

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Just tell them the amount of pixie dust required to build the design from that document exceeds their budget.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: yllus
Holy Vishnu! That's a really awful project requirements document. I'm guessing the reason it came out like that was:

a) They have no idea what they actually want, so they tried to make it sound like everything and nothing all at once,

Nope, they honestly believe these are goals they can measure against.

Originally posted by: yllus
b) They decided to make you (re)write the requirements document for them because a proper doc would take them too much time/effort.

Oh no. I'm not allowed to make changes to their requirements. I'm just the SAP Performance Management expert they hired to put it all in place. They couldn't possibly allow a consultant to "dictate company policy".

Originally posted by: yllus
I don't think there necessarily needs to be specific rules laid out in this document if this is the first-ever definition of the project, but that's just a pile of garbage right now. Sometimes I'm really glad I'm usually the project lieutenant, not the project leader.

I'm not the leader, I'm just the fall-guy. This one is going to end ugly. I can feel it already.

ZV
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
All the stuff from your first post is the kind of thing I regularly email back and forth to my brother and we laugh about how completely meaningless it is. Just a circle jerk of vapid business terms that cannot possibly be actionable (another one, I suppose) in any way.

At the end of the day, though, as long as we're all aligned with solution-finding and not blame-storming, and we're empowering the end users to strengthen the company's culture and strive toward brand deliverance, we're doing the right thing, aren't we?

Fixed for you.
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
So, what's the back story? You're supposed to design a software package, write a business strategy, write a performance metric or algorithm? What you posted, without a framework or overview, signifies nothing. I like waffles.

Some of us have to rant without context because otherwise we subject ourselves to more professional identification than we want associated to our usernames.
 

Dr. Zaus

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This one is for free, but generally I would charge 250 an hour for it.

Drives a performance culture based upon accountability at all levels in the organization.

(What the fvck does this mean? How is it measured? What defines a "performance culture"? For what are "all levels" accountable?)
The psycho-sociological measures of 'accountability' and 'performance' within culture are many fold. Implementation through constant cost-benefit analysis is one option, another is to study the social dynamics you are trying to put your system into and figure out what and where changes need to be made.

You're best outsourcing the integration of your cost-benefit analysis numbers and the present social situation to an industrial psychologist or a PHD in organizational behavior from your local university.


- Has integrity and is perceived to be fairly and equitably administered; ensures calibration of ratings application within and across groups.

(Define "integrity". How on earth can any system anywhere ever hope to control the perceptions of all users? How are perceptions measured? Since calibration is an offline process performed by managers in closed-door sessions, how can the system possibly ensure that this happens correctly?)
You need to measure the perception of integrity among those who are your end users. There is a great deal of literature both researcher and practitioner based for this. You then need to implement an interface and create procedures that take into account the ethical nature of your people.

how Machiavellian are they? how deontological/teleological are they? etc.

- Captures an individual's performance contribution, such that performance is clearly differentiated using agreed guidelines for performance distribution and a value can be placed on it so that it can be translated into an individual reward via separate compensation processes.

(Translation: Is scored numerically. Also, managers perform the scoring, not the system, so it is the managers' responsibility to ensure appropriate distribution of scores, not the system's.)
But it is the system's job to implement an unbiased scoring system. You need to read up on human-resources literature and find out what systems of review are and are not social and cultural bias. You also need to know what the effective and efficient measures for performance are.

this one needs someone from the university that is a specialist in human-resources and compensation.
Measures an individual's performance separate and apart from company performance, yet tightly aligns individual performance objectives to company strategy, such that the aggregate company performance results would naturally correlate with the aggregate individual performance distribution.

(Separate and apart?)
It's called Orwellian double speak
aggregate individual performance will always correlate with company performance; whether negative or positive, there will always be at least some correlation.
But the requirement is that the system not be based on company performance, not that you remove all impact on company performance from the assessment
What you mean is that you want aggregate individual performance to be positively correlated with company performance. Of course, we're still missing any measurable means to determine whether this criterion has been met.)
Again, if you lack the ability to measure this then you should figure it out. I assure you that just because you don't know how to measure something does not mean that it can not be measured. There is empirical work done in the field all the time.


- Incorporates the results an individual achieves (the "what") and the value-based behavioral actions that the individual takes (the "how") into the individual's overall performance assessment.

(Translation: Allows evaluation of an employee's behavior as well as his or her results. Still doesn't provide a model for doing this. How should it incorporate behavioral evaluation? A numeric rating? A percentage modifier? A free-text field?)
as both a computer-guy and a business researcher I have to tell you this: if you can't figure out how to implement the present state of human resource research in a computer based interface then you need to not take contracts that involve the topic.

would you implement an accounting system without knowing anything about accounting? would it make sense to be given an accounting system project and then complain about how you don't know how to measure FIFO or WIP?

same thing here, you need some specialized knowledge in order to bring your own computer-based specialized knowledge into the work place.

if nothing else do not get specification documents, do specification interviews.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
So, what's the back story? You're supposed to design a software package, write a business strategy, write a performance metric or algorithm? What you posted, without a framework or overview, signifies nothing. I like waffles.

I am a functional consultant for a large HR system's Performance Mangement module. I create functional design documentation for any customizations necessary to the system to meet a client's needs as well as configuring the standard as-delivered system to suit needs where possible.

I also provide process advice based on my experiences implementing Performance Management systems at other companies throughout the country.

I like waffles too.

ZV
 

HannibalX

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
That shit sounds like it was written by a philosophy major...or the sales department...

It's typical corporate BS from VPs with nothing to do. Every place I have worked has similar shit.