If you can get rid of one religion in the world.

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Jeff7

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I'd need a time machine to see when would be a good time.


Go back to one of the times when our population was extremely small, see what religion was prominent at that time, and do away with that religion.
That'd probably have some interesting impacts on the future. :D



(Or whatever they would have had at the time. I'm sure they would have had some interesting ideas as to what mythical creatures had made nature go all psychotic.)
 

SlowSpyder

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I would get rid of Atheism.....


Not a religion.

But even it counted, what harm have atheist caused the world? They say things in message boards you don't care for? On the other hand, what harm has been caused by the real religions?
 

GagHalfrunt

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I don't know man, if you look around the world right now, most of the conflicts and calamities are caused by one religion. Really.

No, if you REALLY look around the world Christianity is very much in the running for which one is the biggest piece of shit. We live in a Jesus-freak country, so the Islamic atrocities are played up and the Christianity atrocities don't get mentioned. Historically Christianity has been FAR FAR FAR worse than Islam, now Islam is beginning to narrow the gap a bit.
 

Exophase

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Not a religion.

But even it counted, what harm have atheist caused the world? They say things in message boards you don't care for? On the other hand, what harm has been caused by the real religions?

Atheists convince other people to lose their faith, which I suppose is the worst thing imaginable for a Christian - it's better to kill a person than kill their faith.

On the other hand, a lot of Christians seem a much more comfortable with people who believe in something, anything, no matter how little it has to do with Christian salvation. Maybe because it's easier to move from one irrational belief in the supernatural to another one.

No, if you REALLY look around the world Christianity is very much in the running for which one is the biggest piece of shit. We live in a Jesus-freak country, so the Islamic atrocities are played up and the Christianity atrocities don't get mentioned. Historically Christianity has been FAR FAR FAR worse than Islam, now Islam is beginning to narrow the gap a bit.

But he said the world right now, not historically.
 
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Getting rid of religion won't do shit, as people will make up new ones to excuse their ignorance and irrationality.
 

SunnyD

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Do I get to pick the time period for when I get to erase said religion from? If so, I'm going with Judaism, circa about 2000 BCE (approximate guess, probably more like 2500-3000 BCE for oral tradition, maybe even earlier).

That should essentially take care of pretty much everything in the bullshit family tree.
 

GagHalfrunt

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But he said the world right now, not historically.


And I mean RIGHT NOW. Christians have been far worse historically, now it's pretty close to a coin flip as to which one is worse. We just hear about Islam and the people who want to believe that Christianity has cleaned up its act conveniently ignore what's happening in the real world.

Muslim bomber kills 5 is front page news.
Christians kill a million in Rwanda, that doesn't get mentioned.

Muslim truck bombs disco, 50 dies, front page.
Christian missionaries exterminate entire cultures at gunpoint in Asia and the Pacific Islands, completely buried.

Right here, right now, at this moment in history Christianity and Islam are about equally repugnant.
 

SlowSpyder

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People who say they don't believe in a god are way worse than those who would fly planes into buildings, help spread AIDS in Africa by restricting condoms, those who would crusade and wage war for 'holy land', those who worship a god who calls for genocide, slavery, murder of children, etc., people who believe women are second class citizens, people who restrict medical research such as that involving stem cells, people who use science every day but say it isn't real and want bullshit taught in classrooms, Jim Jones, televangelists, people who would force indigenous people to convert, cause massacres in America, Africa, etc. etc. etc.

Damn atheists... terrible people! :twisted:
 

squarecut1

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People who say they don't believe in a god are way worse than those who would fly planes into buildings, help spread AIDS in Africa by restricting condoms, those who would crusade and wage war for 'holy land', those who worship a god who calls for genocide, slavery, murder of children, etc., people who believe women are second class citizens, people who restrict medical research such as that involving stem cells, people who use science every day but say it isn't real and want bullshit taught in classrooms, Jim Jones, televangelists, people who would force indigenous people to convert, cause massacres in America, Africa, etc. etc. etc.

Damn atheists... terrible people! :twisted:
How did the communists do? How many of his own country did Stalin kill?

Violence has nothing to do with religion or lack thereof. It is part of the human nature
 

norseamd

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups Taoism isn't mentioned so I would assume it would be in other. I didn't realize Hinduism had such a large following. Has Hinduism started any major conflicts? I don't think so.

Were you not aware of that place named India good sir?
 

SlowSpyder

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How did the communists do? How many of his own country did Stalin kill?

Violence has nothing to do with religion or lack thereof. It is part of the human nature


Sure, absolutely, the blame doesn't lie squarely on religion, no arguments there. I was getting at why someone would choose getting rid of atheism vs. something that has been the cause of untold amounts of violence and suffering. It is amazing what levels of barbarism we can achieve when we're sure we have the almighty on our side and our otherwise terrible deeds are deemed just thanks to the divine. Killing is bad, wrong. Killing for god is moral.
 

norseamd

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Do I get to pick the time period for when I get to erase said religion from? If so, I'm going with Judaism, circa about 2000 BCE (approximate guess, probably more like 2500-3000 BCE for oral tradition, maybe even earlier). That should essentially take care of pretty much everything in the bullshit family tree.

Just have the Eqyptian or Hittite Civilizations destroy the Israelites. You could have some rural raiding or urban terrorism by the Israelites as the spark that influences the massive empires to destroy the Israelites.
 

pontifex

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People who say they don't believe in a god are way worse than those who would fly planes into buildings, help spread AIDS in Africa by restricting condoms, those who would crusade and wage war for 'holy land', those who worship a god who calls for genocide, slavery, murder of children, etc., people who believe women are second class citizens, people who restrict medical research such as that involving stem cells, people who use science every day but say it isn't real and want bullshit taught in classrooms, Jim Jones, televangelists, people who would force indigenous people to convert, cause massacres in America, Africa, etc. etc. etc.

Damn atheists... terrible people! :twisted:

would love to hear the explanation behind this...
 

SKORPI0

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Getting rid of one wouldn't really fix anything. The world would be improved if we could get rid of two.

All of them. :rolleyes:

Religious tyrannies and murder in the name of god

More crimes have been committed in the name of religion than any other reason

Religion was invented by men (until the twentieth century when women saw the way to make easy money and invented their churches and mythologies) to control others so that they would not have to work.
The goal of religion was to intimidate and scare people into working for the new class of tyrants, known as priests, magi, and in time pastors, rabbis, and so forth.........
 

BurnItDwn

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Fascism is the worst religion, but thankfully we got rid of that one in the 1940s. Next most dangerous was Communism, which essentially failed in the 80s. The next most dangerous is Capitalism in its dirtiest form. People who manipulate and worship the holy "open market". People who see greed as a virtue and idolize money have done and are doing immense damage in their holy war against the middle class and the poor. The god of money is much more dangerous than the god of Christ or Mohammad.
 

CountZero

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If it means everyone becomes an atheist or at best agnostic then I'd do Christianity. Almost entirely removing religion from our political discourse in this country would be amazing.

If it is a swap then I'd swap out Islam for Christianity. Or maybe Christianity for Buddhism or Shintoism.
 

Maximilian

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It took 15 posts to get to Islam? That is poor form! Islam is the worst out of all of them by far.
 

squarecut1

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Fascism is the worst religion, but thankfully we got rid of that one in the 1940s. Next most dangerous was Communism, which essentially failed in the 80s. The next most dangerous is Capitalism in its dirtiest form. People who manipulate and worship the holy "open market". People who see greed as a virtue and idolize money have done and are doing immense damage in their holy war against the middle class and the poor. The god of money is much more dangerous than the god of Christ or Mohammad.
Indeed everyone has a religion. For most these days, it is money. That is what they worship