If you burn a 1x dvd at 2x will the burn be as good?

Atlantean

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I just flash upgraded my dvd burner so that it can burn 1x discs at 2x speed. Will it hurt the discs or the quality of the burn if I burn 1x discs at 2x speed?
 

VBboy

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As long as you use high quality media rated at 2x, you will be ok. Burning 1x-media at 2x will either fail or will cause errors later on..
 

aswedc

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I assume there is a difference on DVDs, cause there definately is a difference on CDs. Some of my CD players won't play CDs burnt too fast...
 

Atlantean

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I have some princo discs (I think thats what they are anyways, white top purple recording surface) that are 1x speed rated, but after flashing the burner it says that I can now burn the discs at 2x will that cause any problems with quality of burn?

Oh and the discs are just being used to store data not movies, so they will be using a dvd-rom to read them.
 

VBboy

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Originally posted by: Atlantean
I have some princo discs (I think thats what they are anyways, white top purple recording surface) that are 1x speed rated, but after flashing the burner it says that I can now burn the discs at 2x will that cause any problems with quality of burn?

Only you can answer that question
 

Codewiz

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Originally posted by: VBboy
As long as you use high quality media rated at 2x, you will be ok. Burning 1x-media at 2x will either fail or will cause errors later on..

Depends on the quality of the media.

There is NO SUCH THING as 2x media. The DVD Forum has only put out specs for 1x and 4x media. "2x" media is just 1x media that has proven to be reliable at 2x so Pioneer has enabled 2x burning for that media via the firmware.

To see what Pioneer has to say read here: http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/multimedia/dvd/dvd-r_writing_speed.htm

With that said only higher quality 1x media will burn at 2x ok. I personally have Samsung BeAll media that only burns at 1x with my A05 with the normal firmware. The media burns fine at 2x with the hacked firmware. It all just depends on the firmware.

I would also suggest checking out http://forum.rpc1.org

EDIT: Use Nero CDSpeed to test the quality of your burns. Only test the burned media in a DVD-ROM since your dvd writer has a better laser and won't show the problems with the burn if any exist.
 

Atlantean

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: VBboy
As long as you use high quality media rated at 2x, you will be ok. Burning 1x-media at 2x will either fail or will cause errors later on..

Depends on the quality of the media.

There is NO SUCH THING as 2x media. The DVD Forum has only put out specs for 1x and 4x media. "2x" media is just 1x media that has proven to be reliable at 2x so Pioneer has enabled 2x burning for that media via the firmware.

To see what Pioneer has to say read here: <a href="http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/multimedia/dvd/dvd-r_writing_speed.htm">http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/multimedia/dvd/dvd-r_writing_speed.htm</A>

With that said only higher quality 1x media will burn at 2x ok. I personally have Samsung BeAll media that only burns at 1x with my A05 with the normal firmware. The media burns fine at 2x with the hacked firmware. It all just depends on the firmware.

I would also suggest checking out <a href="http://forum.rpc1.org">http://forum.rpc1.org</A>

EDIT: Use Nero CDSpeed to test the quality of your burns. Only test the burned media in a DVD-ROM since your dvd writer has a better laser and won't show the problems with the burn if any exist.

What will Nero CDSpeed tell me? I ran it and the seek times seemed hign, 244ms for full seek, 103 ms for random, 127ms for 1/3. That is with the disc that was burned at 2x speed.
 

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If you burn a 1x dvd at 2x will the burn be as good?
I've found it depends on the quality of the media and the player.

Some players won't play some discs that others will.
 

Codewiz

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Originally posted by: Atlantean
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: VBboy As long as you use high quality media rated at 2x, you will be ok. Burning 1x-media at 2x will either fail or will cause errors later on..
Depends on the quality of the media. There is NO SUCH THING as 2x media. The DVD Forum has only put out specs for 1x and 4x media. "2x" media is just 1x media that has proven to be reliable at 2x so Pioneer has enabled 2x burning for that media via the firmware. To see what Pioneer has to say read here: ">http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/multimedia/dvd/dvd-r_writing_speed.htm">http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/multimedia/dvd/dvd-r_writing_speed.htm</a> With that said only higher quality 1x media will burn at 2x ok. I personally have Samsung BeAll media that only burns at 1x with my A05 with the normal firmware. The media burns fine at 2x with the hacked firmware. It all just depends on the firmware. I would also suggest checking out ">http://forum.rpc1.org">http://forum.rpc1.org</a> EDIT: Use Nero CDSpeed to test the quality of your burns. Only test the burned media in a DVD-ROM since your dvd writer has a better laser and won't show the problems with the burn if any exist.
What will Nero CDSpeed tell me? I ran it and the seek times seemed hign, 244ms for full seek, 103 ms for random, 127ms for 1/3. That is with the disc that was burned at 2x speed.

All you care about is the graph.....

You want it to be a smooth line as the speed increases because that means the dvd-rom didn't have to slow down to read data. That means the data is "cleanly" written and shouldn't be a problem

here is a webpage that shows some examples.

http://gradius.rpc1.org/dvr/test/
 

Codewiz

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Originally posted by: Atlantean
Oh also what is "DVD Rot" that I have been hearing about?

DVD rot should not affect R/RW media. DVD rot is when air gets between the layers of a dvd and destroys the data. Laserdisc had suffered extremely due to rot. I have heard people mention dvd rot but I have not witnessed it. It should technically only affect DVD-9(dual layer) disks mostly because of the way they are made