If you believe it is OK for a President to attack the SCOTUS during the STOU

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Lifer
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Since the State of the Union is constitutionally mandated it should rise above politics and instead be a high minded speech about the country, where it is and where it is going.

It should be okay for the President to bring up political issues that he wishes to address, but he should not attack the other branches of government for their actions.

"Professor" you should certainly no there is no constitutional requirement for a State of the Union address. The Constitution requires the President give an annual report to Congress, the format or contents are not specified. It wasn't until Woodrow Wilson that the Presidents made the practice of a State of the Union address consistent.

I find the whining in this thread generally unpersuasive. If a President wants to recite Dr. Seuss as his State of the Union address, he has the right to do so. As an American citizen President Obama was certainly entitled, and as a former constitutional law professor he was certainly qualified, to publically criticize the Supreme Court's atrocious gutting of a century of precedent to create new law in the campaign financing field-new law that is now amply demonstrated to us that elections will be heavily influenced by vast amounts of secret money.

But I guess you guys feel we can have free speech for hypothetical persons (corporations) but not for the President of the United States?
 

WHAMPOM

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Is it OK for the SCOTUS to get a slovenly Justice of the Peace to swear him in?

Personally I don't think either is acceptable, but there are current threads that say it's OK.

Since the only requirement is that someone who is legally able to swear someone in perform the act, it would be valid.

So if the Chief Justice wanted to make a statement about a sitting President by doing this it would be perfectly legal. Of course it shows disrespect for the the office, but that didn't stop Obama from doing it.

Just how consistent are you?

Criticize the SCOTUS? Oh no! Give 'em hell Obama, that's the caliber of President I voted for.
I think it all right for Obama to dismiss a Chief Justice that cannot get the Presidential Oath right. After all shouldn't a Presidential appointee bypassing Gongress be just temporary?
 

Generator

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Everybody deserves a sincere fuck you once in a while and the SC is no different. Despite what Alito says, we all know what is true from his irresponsible decisions. Obama is no king, but I have no problem with calling people out like he said he would. Shit I vote for someone on that fact alone. Just to call a crook a crook.

You crybaby Republicans hacks. Maybe if you didn't hate blacks, mexicans, laborers, poor, and gays who wouldn't need to get money from Saudi Arabia and China. Funneling it through to the Chamber of Commerce like some slimeball. Americans have given up on the Republican by keeping their wallets in their pockets.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Everybody deserves a sincere fuck you once in a while and the SC is no different. Despite what Alito says, we all know what is true from his irresponsible decisions. Obama is no king, but I have no problem with calling people out like he said he would. Shit I vote for someone on that fact alone. Just to call a crook a crook.

You crybaby Republicans hacks. Maybe if you didn't hate blacks, mexicans, laborers, poor, and gays who wouldn't need to get money from Saudi Arabia and China. Funneling it through to the Chamber of Commerce like some slimeball. Americans have given up on the Republican by keeping their wallets in their pockets.

Quick- name the political affiliation of those posting in this thread.
 

Double Trouble

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I have no problem with the POTUS making a statement about some SCOTUS ruling, but the venue was clearly wrong and inappropriate, much like the "You lie!" thing. I have no problem with him saying that Obama was lying, but not at that time. He can do that somewhere else on his own time.

Similarly, the POTUS can make statements about a ruling, but the SOTU address is not the appropriate place to "call out" the scotus. I have to say that I have a lot of respect for the members of the scotus showing restraint; I would have gotten up and walked out, then given a press conference right outside the capitol steps stating that the president is a jackass.

And no, having a lowly justice of the peace is not appropriate to swear in the POTUS, it's an affront to the office.