If you are traveling at 100 MPH and have a gun that shoots bullets at 100 MPH

cjchaps

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Let's say you are traveling at 100 MPH in a forward direction and have a gun that shoots bullets at 100 MPH. If you aim it backwards and fire does the bullet drop straight down? I assume the answer is yes but I'm not 100% positive....
 
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Originally posted by: cjchaps
Let's say you are traveling at 100 MPH in a forward direction and have a gun that shoots bullets at 100 MPH. If you aim it backwards and fire does the bullet drop straight down? I assume the answer is yes but I'm not 100% positive....

yes.
 

DVad3r

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I would say yes? It would be like firing a gun backwards from a fighter jet traveling mach 2 or 3? Which leads me to another question, how do those machine gun canons on fighter jets still exceed velocity and hit stuff in front of them at high speeds?
 

Kirby

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But if you going forward at the speed of light and shoot a bullet forward at the speed what happens then? Riddle me that!!
 

Tom

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to someone not in the car the bullet would appear stationary. If you're in the car, the car isn't moving relative to you, the bullet would go south away from you at 100 mph.

 

cjchaps

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OK, that is what I was thinking.

Originally posted by: Tom
someone not in the car would see the bullet drop straight down. If you're in the car, the car isn't moving relative to you, the bullet would go south away from you at 100 mph.

 

animalia

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Those are some slow-ass bullets.

- M4H

wait so if a major league baseball pitcher throws a baseball out that same car...it's not gonna leave the car? wtf
 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: DVad3r
I would say yes? It would be like firing a gun backwards from a fighter jet traveling mach 2 or 3? Which leads me to another question, how do those machine gun canons on fighter jets still exceed velocity and hit stuff in front of them at high speeds?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertia :p

- M4H

Im fat lazy and slow, so let's say the plane is going mach 2 and the bullet get's shot out at mach 2 then it's speed is mach 4?

 

Aikouka

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No, it wouldn't.

1) There's a wake that occurs (hence why Nascar people use Drafting to increase their speeds) when you drive that would at least throw the bullet even if it did stop in mid-air :p.

2) Once the bullet is fired from the "stationary" object (i.e. gun), the velocity of the stationary object shouldn't apply, therefore there is no "canceling" like you're trying to suggest.

EDIT: To elaborate on "stationary", I don't mean the object doesn't move at all. I meant it's stationary on the moving vehicle as in the gun is counted as moving at 100mph along with the truck.
 

Chiropteran

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Originally posted by: nkgreen
But if you going forward at the speed of light and shoot a bullet forward at the speed what happens then? Riddle me that!!

You can not move forward "at the speed of light".

If you are moving forward at say, 90% the speed of light, and fire a a laser (which "shoots" at the speed of light), the laser would appear from your perspective to travel away from you at the speed of light.

However, someone who is at rest relative to you would see the laser as moving away from them at only the speed of light, not 190% the speed of light.

This isn't a paradox because of the way time and lengths are altered by the relative speeds. The distance you see the laser travel relative to yourself over a given time is greater than the distance the observer at rest sees the laser travel relative to you.
 

bigrash

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Originally posted by: animalia
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Those are some slow-ass bullets.

- M4H

wait so if a major league baseball pitcher throws a baseball out that same car...it's not gonna leave the car? wtf

is the pitcher standing on a mound on top of the car?
 

Mrfrog840

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Originally posted by: bigrash
Originally posted by: animalia
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Those are some slow-ass bullets.

- M4H

wait so if a major league baseball pitcher throws a baseball out that same car...it's not gonna leave the car? wtf

is the pitcher standing on a mound on top of the car?

i would love to see that
 

Tom

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Originally posted by: animalia
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Those are some slow-ass bullets.

- M4H

wait so if a major league baseball pitcher throws a baseball out that same car...it's not gonna leave the car? wtf


assuming nothing gets in the way, the ball and the car will move apart from each other at 200 mph total, so no, it wouldn't stay in the car.

but to someone not in the car, the ball would be stationary. or with gravity would see it fall straight towards the Earth.

 

Chiropteran

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Originally posted by: animalia
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Those are some slow-ass bullets.

- M4H

wait so if a major league baseball pitcher throws a baseball out that same car...it's not gonna leave the car? wtf

no. it's speed relative to the car would still be 100mph. it's speed relative to the earth would be 0mph. it would appear to drop straight down, disregarding the wake of the car and cross winds and such.