If you are poor w/3 children, the govt pays you $6k for filing your taxes

[Veliko]

Money and jobs aren't static numbers. Again it's part of the victim mentality you've latched onto. Money isn't a finite resource, nor are the number of jobs. People start new businesses every day(I started mine 4 months ago) and while some do close it doesn't mean that the number has to stay constant. And even if it did(which is absurd) then why not strive for a better job/position/etc instead of finding every lame excuse as to why you can't, won't, shouldn't... YOU are limiting yourself. people are limiting themselves. Break out of the victim mentality so you stop holding yourself back!

I see one of the forum millionaires has decided to out himself.

How's the supermodel girlfriend?

 

[OverVolt]

I see one of the forum millionaires has decided to out himself.

How's the supermodel girlfriend?

More like just wait until he goes through his first inevitable lawsuits.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Yes, there really is an infinite pie! Jobs are out there for anybody who wants them, despite the automation, offshoring & looting of productive capacity.

The Rust Belt is just a figment of Loser! imaginations.

Go for absurdity! Go! Go!

??? Hmm....

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I see one of the forum millionaires has decided to out himself.

How's the supermodel girlfriend?

Not a millionaire yet, however I'm not blaming "the system" or anyone else because I haven't reached it yet.

 

[cabri]

There are X number of jobs, and X+n number of people who need one or need assistance. The difference between those 2 quantities is quite real ATM, regardless of your attempts to denigrate anybody not currently & continuously employed.

Did poor people create the difference in those amounts? Or are there other factors beyond their control?

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2013/03/graphs-for-duration-of-unemployment.html

Yeh, all those people under the red line just decided to go on welfare, I suppose.

Shouldn't it all trickle down? Where are those job creators, anyway?

The well paying jobs ate there. Look at the help wanted sections. Just get the required skills. More jobs available that those that have the needed/perceived skills.
And demand is such for quality that minimal OJT is available.

The no skill jobs are missing.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Not having a holier than thou attitude helps one spot that. too.

I'm no better than anyone else. I stated earlier that I've made mistakes, wrong decisions, etc. However I'm not blaming others for my previous lack of success because I've shed the victim mentality. The point here is that you can shed it too if you want to. Also, because I have shed it doesn't mean I don't have times of self-doubt, or moments of weakness, or moments where I say "it's not fair" but I try to quickly readjust if I find myself there. It doesn't make me better than anyone, nor does it mean I look down on others. Hell, I was there once - "trapped", poor, no education etc. But if I can make the change I believe others can too - THAT is the point I'm trying to make.

 

[Veliko]

I'm no better than anyone else. I stated earlier that I've made mistakes, wrong decisions, etc. However I'm not blaming others for my previous lack of success because I've shed the victim mentality. The point here is that you can shed it too if you want to. Also, because I have shed it doesn't mean I don't have times of self-doubt, or moments of weakness, or moments where I say "it's not fair" but I try to quickly readjust if I find myself there. It doesn't make me better than anyone, nor does it mean I look down on others. Hell, I was there once - "trapped", poor, no education etc. But if I can make the change I believe others can too - THAT is the point I'm trying to make.

Are you the guy from The Simpsons who crops up every so often with his self-improvement videos?

 

[Jhhnn]

The point here is that you can shed it too if you want to.

The point here is false attribution on your part. I'm not a victim at all, never claimed to be. We've lived near the 80th percentile of income for decades. In that, I was lucky to be there, and still lucky today. Changes in the economy went around us, with massive shifts in income & wealth from median families & below to the top .1%.

That doesn't mean I'm blind to it or that I see myself as better than other people because I've made more money.

This isn't about me, but rather the world around me, particularly this wonderful country where I and others have acquired a tiny little slice of the pie & lived good lives.

In many respects, that was made possible because of New Deal economic, banking & tax policy that prevented the people at the tippy top from having it all for themselves. We've lost the economic balance achieved in that Post-WW2 era. What was a myriad of small opportunities have been concentrated along with income, wealth & power into fewer & fewer hands, approaching that of so-called "developing economies" of much of the world.

Which is not to say that it was perfect, at all, but rather better opportunity-wise for a helluva lot larger segment of the population than it is today.