If you are at all interested in cricket, the most amazing game i've ever heard of just concluded

dug777

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Originally posted by: venk
Can you give us a baseball or football analogy for us Yanks?

no, since i understand nor care about either of them ;)

How about soccer (which i also dislike)?

Its a bit like one soccer team scoring 8 goals and their opposition getting 9 goals with the last coming in the last second of extra time...

Or a tennis game running to 8 sets ;)
 

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South Africa and Australia need to stop ripping off British accents and games and come up with your own like America did. The accents are up to you, but the sports should be really complex, requiring elaborate venues and equipment that only commercialized teams and publicly funded grade schools can afford. Then you can institute corrupt athletics programs at your universities. They will hire imbeciles who score 7s on the Wunderlic to represent your academic institutions. These athletes will later go on to act like thugs and beat their wives in professional sports, and get paid millions to do it.
 

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Australia not able to defend 434 :laugh: How sad is that :D (makes me feel a little better about India's World Cup final loss to Aus :eek: ) I was reading somewhere that Australia's 434 may last so long as to never be overhauled in the foreseeable future - talk about a wrong prediction :D
 
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Could you at least explain the concept of 434-4 and 438-9?

This is a game that can last more than a day? How can you plan a Sunday afternoon around watching it? And the team that scored 438 lost? I'm confused...
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
South Africa and Australia need to stop ripping off British accents and games and come up with your own like America did. The accents are up to you, but the sports should be really complex, requiring elaborate venues and equipment that only commercialized teams and publicly funded grade schools can afford. Then you can institute corrupt athletics programs at your universities. They will hire imbeciles who score 7s on the Wunderlic to represent your academic institutions. These athletes will later go on to act like thugs and beat their wives in professional sports, and get paid millions to do it.

:laugh:
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Could you at least explain the concept of 434-4 and 438-9?

This is a game that can last more than a day? How can you plan a Sunday afternoon around watching it? And the team that scored 438 lost? I'm confused...

okay ;)

the last number is the number of wickets lost (ie. men who got out). It's 11 a side...

the first score is how many runs the team scored in total in one innings usually...

Test cricket lasts five days usually, in which case both teams have two innings each, and the combined number of runs determines the result...

One day lasts on day (50 overs each). Twenty/Twenty is 20 overs each ;)

The team with the highest score is teh winnar, if you draw, you draw.
 

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Could you at least explain the concept of 434-4 and 438-9?

This is a game that can last more than a day? How can you plan a Sunday afternoon around watching it? And the team that scored 438 lost? I'm confused...

The 434 is the number of runs the team scored while the 4 is he number of wickets they lost.

The team that scored 438 won.
 

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well i would put cricket in the same category as curling, except this past olympics showed us that at least in curling there are really hot girls!
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Could you at least explain the concept of 434-4 and 438-9?

This is a game that can last more than a day? How can you plan a Sunday afternoon around watching it? And the team that scored 438 lost? I'm confused...

6 balls (pitches) per over
max 10 overs per bowler (pitcher)
50 consecutive overs per innings
1 innings per team
11 players per team (if 10 batsmen get out innings is cut short)

434 runs in 50 overs = 8.68 runs per over
438 runs in 50 overs = 8.76 runs per over

Typical scores for matches like this one range from 250 runs to 300 runs, or 5 to 6 runs per over.

Team that scored 438 (South Africa) won. They lost 9 batsmen during their innings. If they had lost a 10th batsman before passing 434, they would have lost. Australia lost only 4 batsmen, hence 434-4 and 438-9.

SA is Aus' b!tch. They always lost in the most crucial matches so this was a bit of surprise to say the least ;)

Aus is ranked #1 and SA #2 in the world. But Aus is so far ahead that nobody is going to overtake them at the #1 position in the near future.

IMHO, Aussies are the best cricketers and the worst sledgers (lots of name-calling on the field to provoke other teams, generally boorish behaviour - former colony of convicts so no surprise there ;) ). OTOH, SA have and have had some of the pettiest, narrow-minded "sportsmen" to step on a cricket field, again not surprising considering their apartheid past. Poor choice between the two teams, but on sheer talent and skills, Aus is truly indomitable.

Pretty telling that Glenn McGrath and Shaun Pollock were not playing - they are the strongest bowlers in Aus and SA respectively. The scores would be a lot less had these two played.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Could you at least explain the concept of 434-4 and 438-9?

This is a game that can last more than a day? How can you plan a Sunday afternoon around watching it? And the team that scored 438 lost? I'm confused...

6 balls (pitches) per over
max 10 overs per bowler (pitcher)
50 consecutive overs per innings
1 innings per team
11 players per team (if 10 batsmen get out innings is cut short)

434 runs in 50 overs = 8.68 runs per over
438 runs in 50 overs = 8.76 runs per over

Typical scores for matches like this one range from 250 runs to 300 runs, or 5 to 6 runs per over.

Team that scored 438 (South Africa) won. They lost 9 batsmen during their innings. If they had lost a 10th batsman before passing 434, they would have lost. Australia lost only 4 batsmen, hence 434-4 and 438-9.

SA is Aus' b!tch. They always lost in the most crucial matches so this was a bit of surprise to say the least ;)

Aus is ranked #1 and SA #2 in the world. But Aus is so far ahead that nobody is going to overtake them at the #1 position in the near future.

IMHO, Aussies are the best cricketers and the worst sledgers (lots of name-calling on the field to provoke other teams, generally boorish behaviour - former colony of convicts so no surprise there ;) ). OTOH, SA have and have had some of the pettiest, narrow-minded "sportsmen" to step on a cricket field, again not surprising considering their apartheid past. Poor choice between the two teams, but on sheer talent and skills, Aus is truly indomitable.

Pretty telling that Glenn McGrath and Shaun Pollock were not playing - they are the strongest bowlers in Aus and SA respectively. The scores would be a lot less had these two played.

Ok, even more lost now.

 
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Ok... I think I get it. So how do you score a run and how does the other team get you out?

Edit: And how do you get more than 8 runs on only six pitched balls?
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Could you at least explain the concept of 434-4 and 438-9?

This is a game that can last more than a day? How can you plan a Sunday afternoon around watching it? And the team that scored 438 lost? I'm confused...

6 balls (pitches) per over
max 10 overs per bowler (pitcher)
50 consecutive overs per innings
1 innings per team
11 players per team (if 10 batsmen get out innings is cut short)

434 runs in 50 overs = 8.68 runs per over
438 runs in 50 overs = 8.76 runs per over

Typical scores for matches like this one range from 250 runs to 300 runs, or 5 to 6 runs per over.

Team that scored 438 (South Africa) won. They lost 9 batsmen during their innings. If they had lost a 10th batsman before passing 434, they would have lost. Australia lost only 4 batsmen, hence 434-4 and 438-9.

SA is Aus' b!tch. They always lost in the most crucial matches so this was a bit of surprise to say the least ;)

Aus is ranked #1 and SA #2 in the world. But Aus is so far ahead that nobody is going to overtake them at the #1 position in the near future.

IMHO, Aussies are the best cricketers and the worst sledgers (lots of name-calling on the field to provoke other teams, generally boorish behaviour - former colony of convicts so no surprise there ;) ). OTOH, SA have and have had some of the pettiest, narrow-minded "sportsmen" to step on a cricket field, again not surprising considering their apartheid past. Poor choice between the two teams, but on sheer talent and skills, Aus is truly indomitable.

Pretty telling that Glenn McGrath and Shaun Pollock were not playing - they are the strongest bowlers in Aus and SA respectively. The scores would be a lot less had these two played.

Ok, even more lost now.


OK, Australia batted first. In 50 overs, they scored 434 runs which means SA had to score at least 435 runs to win.

SA batted second and in the penultimate ball of the match went past 434 in a single scoring stroke (like a home run) and got 438, so SA won.

It's a great match because Australia scored 36 runs more than has EVER been scored in a match like this and SA STILL beat that score.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Ok... I think I get it. So how do you score a run and how does the other team get you out?

Edit: And how do you get more than 8 runs on only six pitched balls?

You can run more than once between the wickets after hitting the ball...plus if the ball goes over the boundary without touching the ground it's a six, touching is a four.

I'll work on the other bit now ;)
 

dug777

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You score a run by hitting the ball & running between the wickets. If it goes over the boundary you either get a four or a six (see above). You also get a run if the other team bowls a wide or a no-ball. (and if you score off a no ball you get that run as well as the runs you scored).

The other team gets you out by bowling you out (hitting the stumps), catching the ball without it hitting the ground from your bat/glove/arm. the can also run you out by taking the stumps off a wicket while you are running towards it but are not within the crease ;) You can also get out if they bowl and hit you plumb on the pads in line with the stumps...and you can get timed out if you take too long to come to the crease after the last man got out (never really happens)...

i'm sure i've forgotten some stuff tho :p
 

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Ok... I think I get it. So how do you score a run and how does the other team get you out?

Edit: And how do you get more than 8 runs on only six pitched balls?

Two players at bat simultaneously.

One faces the pitcher (on strike) and one is at the other end of the wicket (non-striker).

Bowler bowls, batsman on strike hits the ball and runs to other end of the wicket, while non-striker runs to the batter's end = 1 run.

If the ball is hit well enough, then batsmen can run more than once between the wickets before a fielder gets to the ball - then 2 or 3 runs (or more) can be scored of a single ball.

If the ball is hit so well that it reaches the boundary (edge of the field) before any fielder can get to it = 4 runs off a single ball.

If ball reaches boundary without ever bouncing on the ground after batsman hits it = 6 runs off a single ball.

Sometimes bowler can bowl a foul ball (no ball, by overstepping the bowlers crease or wide ball, by bowling it too wide from the batsman) = 1 run for batting team, but ball is not counted = 1 run off 0 balls.

Sometimes without batsman hitting the ball, ball can run past the wicketkeeper (or other fielder) = 1 (or more) byes

Sometimes it can go past a fielder after hitting the batsman's body = 1 (or more) leg byes.

 

dug777

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Ok... I think I get it. So how do you score a run and how does the other team get you out?

Edit: And how do you get more than 8 runs on only six pitched balls?

Two players at bat simultaneously.

One faces the pitcher (on strike) and one is at the other end of the wicket (non-striker).

Bowler bowls, batsman on strike hits the ball and runs to other end of the wicket, while non-striker runs to the batter's end = 1 run.

If the ball is hit well enough, then batsmen can run more than once between the wickets before a fielder gets to the ball - then 2 or 3 runs (or more) can be scored of a single ball.

If the ball is hit so well that it reaches the boundary (edge of the field) before any fielder can get to it = 4 runs off a single ball.

If ball reaches boundary without ever bouncing on the ground after batsman hits it = 6 runs off a single ball.

Sometimes bowler can bowl a foul ball (no ball, by overstepping the bowlers crease or wide ball, by bowling it too wide from the batsman) = 1 run for batting team, but ball is not counted = 1 run off 0 balls.

Sometimes without batsman hitting the ball, ball can run past the wicketkeeper (or other fielder) = 1 (or more) byes

Sometimes it can go past a fielder after hitting the batsman's body = 1 (or more) leg byes.

nice ;)
 

athithi

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How to get a batsman out in cricket:

1. Bowled: Bowler bowls, batsman swings and probably misses, ball hits the wickets (three vertical sticks with two bails on top) and bails are dislodged.

2. Caught: Batsman strikes the ball in the air and a fielder catches it before it hits the ground

3. Leg Before Wicket (LBW): Batsman prevents (deliberately or otherwise) ball from striking wickets with body (typically legs) instead of using his bat.

4. Run out: When striker and non-striker run between wickets and fielder collects the ball and breaks the wickets at one end before the batsman closest to that wicket reaches the crease.

5. Stumped: Ball passes batsman and for some reason batsman is outside the batting crease and wicketkeeper collects the ball and breaks the wickets (similar to a run out but batsman was not taking a run, he was just outside his crease)

6. Handling the ball: Batsman uses his hand to stop the ball from hitting the wickets

7. Obstructing the field: Batsman prevents a fielder from collecting the ball or effecting a run out

There are a few other ways of getting a batsman out but the first 5 are the most common.