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ch33zw1z

ch33zw1z

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Something something virtue signaling, something something cancel culture, something something free speech.
 
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Until the GOP makes some major tangible move companies are just going to give them the finger.

Since they are going to try to blockade the infra package because it has higher corporate taxes as a pay for the corporations judgement they are full of shit would seem to be quite accurate.
 
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Moonbeam

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We have seen the Republican Party before. We need only follow the example of the last country destroyed by it how to deal with it:

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | How Germany Deals With Neo-Nazis (Published 2017)

And why, even after Charlottesville, America has the better approach.
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I think the author should reconsider his faith in a more tolerant position. Those who will act with violence when not restrained can have their delusional fears tempered only by enlightenment or some promise of even greater fear of the consequences of acting out in my opinion. The idea of turning the other cheek should not lead to self destruction. It is a way to avoid being hit twice, not the answer to being beaten to death.
 
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Fanatical Meat

Fanatical Meat

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Could you imagine the Fox News reaction if Rachel Maddow said “support expanded voting rights or Democrat will increase your taxes & fees”

edit: to clarify, I am fine with her telling her views to not buy Coke or Delta ticks or whatever. I have a huge problem with implying legislators should look into increasing taxes or audit more. That’s the part I have a big problem with even though it is likely an empty threat
 
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Fanatical Meat said:
Could you imagine the Fox News reaction if Rachel Maddow said “support expanded voting rights or Democrat will increase your taxes & fees”
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I'm pretty sure they called a private company deciding not to publish a racist book anymore fascism so their reaction to that would surely be measured and reasonable.
 
Jaskalas

Jaskalas

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You cancel them, they cancel you.

This is the physical segregation of our society among the political divide. At some point Governors will make the striking blows against the other party and their material interests. Only loyal party members need apply. Thus will migration to your aligned State accelerate. Making even further division and eventual secession easier.

I do wonder how much business Trumpians have, besides pillows.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Jaskalas said:
You cancel them, they cancel you.

This is the physical segregation of our society among the political divide. At some point Governors will make the striking blows against the other party and their material interests. Only loyal party members need apply. Thus will migration to your aligned State accelerate. Making even further division and eventual secession easier.

I do wonder how much business Trumpians have, besides pillows.
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Listen dude, Conservatives have been doing what they accuse others of for centuries upon centuries. What you're calling "canceling" is just others disregarding conservatives feelings and living freely in a FREE country. Conservatives want a theocracy, always have.
 
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Jaskalas

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I hear crying over who started it. Like any prolonged conflict in history, that makes no difference. Your fretting is akin to asking if the Israelis or Palestinians struck first. What matters is steering towards the outcome you want. And being informed of which path we are heading down. So I tell you America is devolving into open partisan warfare on the other party. Not yet violence, but boycotting and segregation. An ending of coexistence.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Jaskalas said:
I hear crying over who started it. Like any prolonged conflict in history, that makes no difference. Your fretting is akin to asking if the Israelis or Palestinians struck first. What matters is steering towards the outcome you want. And being informed of which path we are heading down. So I tell you America is devolving into open partisan warfare on the other party. Not yet violence, but boycotting and segregation. An ending of coexistence.
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No, you hear crying from people who are used to steam rolling others. It's that simple. When put to task, conservatives don't care about what they claim to care about, and simply accuse others of doing what they are, in reality, doing.

Conservatives spent centuries fighting over who's version of religion and theocracy was correct. Now, they largely leave each other alone and fight against people who disagree with them as a whole, people who want freedom FROM religion as well as freedom of religion.

What you see now is growing pains of a society shedding it's deeply religious background in exchange for what our country was actually founded on. Freedom for all.

And overall you might be right about where we're headed, and conservatives strangling America can shoulder the bulk of the responsibility for that.
 
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Jaskalas said:
At some point Governors will make the striking blows against the other party and their material interests.
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too late dude, Republican governors are already doing that.

btw, voter suppression is a one way street, you won't find any Democrats trying to limit people's right to vote.
 
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Jaskalas said:
I hear crying over who started it. Like any prolonged conflict in history, that makes no difference. Your fretting is akin to asking if the Israelis or Palestinians struck first. What matters is steering towards the outcome you want. And being informed of which path we are heading down. So I tell you America is devolving into open partisan warfare on the other party. Not yet violence, but boycotting and segregation. An ending of coexistence.
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I'll ask the same question, where are the Democrats trying to suppress the voted of Republicans? Asking since you brought up the #bothsides defense.
 
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The single reason republicans complain about boycotting is because they know it works.
 
Jaskalas

Jaskalas

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HomerJS said:
I'll ask the same question, where are the Democrats trying to suppress the voted of Republicans? Asking since you brought up the #bothsides defense.
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I have not, and I will not defend what is not mine.

I say there is a growing conflict... holy shit, conflicts have... TWO SIDES!!

It is a god damn statement, not a defense of one side or the other. Spit the straw out of your mouth and be honest rather than coming at me with that BS.
 
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Jaskalas said:
I have not, and I will not defend what is not mine.

I say there is a growing conflict... holy shit, conflicts have... TWO SIDES!!

It is a god damn statement, not a defense of one side or the other. Spit the straw out of your mouth and be honest rather than coming at me with that BS.
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That's like saying there was a growing conflict between the Nazis and the Jews.
 
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dank69 said:
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Not good. Such a thing will only result in Secession or Segregation, then who gets what, who occupies where? Democracy would never survive in a partisan bubble. We'd end up with a dictatorial way of governance. We're just about there in congress, as the sides no longer work with each other and one side passed the last stimulus via budget reconciliation. At some point, as long as the sides continue so divided, there will be blood, and it won't be long. The only question is who starts it? Wouldn't it be better to give up rigid partisanship for compromise and the open exchange of ideas, sans the extremism of the radicals in both parties?
 
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compuwiz1 said:
Not good. Such a thing will only result in Secession or Segregation, then who gets what, who occupies where? Democracy would never survive in a partisan bubble. We'd end up with a dictatorial way of governance. We're just about there in congress, as the sides no longer work with each other and one side passed the last stimulus via budget reconciliation. At some point, as long as the sides continue so divided, there will be blood, and it won't be long. The only question is who starts it? Wouldn't it be better to give up rigid partisanship for compromise and the open exchange of ideas, sans the extremism of the radicals in both parties?
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We'll just have to beat the "south" down again because violence seems to be the only language you understand.
 
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Fenixgoon

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compuwiz1 said:
Not good. Such a thing will only result in Secession or Segregation, then who gets what, who occupies where? Democracy would never survive in a partisan bubble. We'd end up with a dictatorial way of governance. We're just about there in congress, as the sides no longer work with each other and one side passed the last stimulus via budget reconciliation. At some point, as long as the sides continue so divided, there will be blood, and it won't be long. The only question is who starts it? Wouldn't it be better to give up rigid partisanship for compromise and the open exchange of ideas, sans the extremism of the radicals in both parties?
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The average of +10 and -1000 is still a very large negative number. Which is to say, the "far right" is much further right than the "far left" is left.

So compromising with republicans as they are is nowhere near centrism. Not to mention they don't operate in good faith to begin with, but that's somewhat tangential
 
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