If we dont overclock do we still need a cpu cooler ?

kudilkrishna

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hi all

i am going to buy i7-920 with ud3r motherboard with 6gb ram, shall do photo and video editing like maya and photoshop works.

do i still need cpu cooler like artic cooling freezer 7 pro

thanks
 

toyota

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well you dont need it but it will help the cpu run cooler if thats important. I went with the freezer 7 pro when I built my pc about 14 months ago just to have it run cooler at stock and also allow me to oc in the future. that cooler is pretty cheap and it was a snap to install and keeps my cpu in the 40s during gaming even with it oced to 3.8. I am not sure exactly how the freezer 7 pro does on the i7 cpus though but for the money it should be fine.
 

StrangerGuy

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At the bare minimum, you will still need to use the bundled cooler that comes with your CPU retail box.

Running ANY CPU without a cooler is a BIG no-no.
 

ShawnD1

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The i7 actually has a worse reputation than the Pentium 4 Prescott and several people have made threads about how the stock cooler sucks balls. Yes you need to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler even at stock speed.
 

TJCS

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hi all

i am going to buy i7-920 with ud3r motherboard with 6gb ram, shall do photo and video editing like maya and photoshop works.

do i still need cpu cooler like artic cooling freezer 7 pro

thanks
I would recommend you to get a good after market cooler. The i7 920 with HT can generate some serious heat when CPU is under heavy load. One guy here reached 91C when testing his 920 w/stock cooler at full load in prime95.

The heat dissipated off your CPU will also put stress to other components in your case depending on case airflow and ambient room temp.

Is it doable? Yes
Recommended? No
 

toyota

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I would recommend you to get a good after market cooler. The i7 920 with HT can generate some serious heat when CPU is under heavy load. One guy here reached 91C when testing his 920 w/stock cooler at full load in prime95.

The heat dissipated off your CPU will also put stress to other components in your case depending on case airflow and ambient room temp.

Is it doable? Yes
Recommended? No
the case and room will not really be affected by which cooler delivers the lowest temp. its still the same amount of power and energy being used but the better cooler is just drawing it away from the cpu better.
 

ShawnD1

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Load's were in the 90's so i was like fuck it and clocked it down to 3.6Ghz. Went and bought a cooler an hour later :)

Yep that'll destroy your computer alright. I ran my 2.4ghz E6600 at 70C by clocking it to 3.2ghz on a stock cooler. After 3 years it's so badly damaged that it won't run higher than about 2.9 before it starts to fail Prime95 small FFT.
 

TJCS

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the case and room will not really be affected by which cooler delivers the lowest temp. its still the same amount of power and energy being used but the better cooler is just drawing it away from the cpu better.
That is true if the room is very hot and the case is very hot (he will just be moving hot air around). If the room is cool, but his case has poor airflow then the heat coming off the cpu will raise the temps for other components inside the case.
 

toyota

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That is true if the room is very hot and the case is very hot (he will just be moving hot air around). If the room is cool, but his case has poor airflow then the heat coming off the cpu will raise the temps for other components inside the case.
well his cpu having a higher temp does not mean more heat is getting released. it just means that the cooler is not efficiently cooling that one spot. it seems to me with poor case flow its going to be just as hot in there no matter what is actually being used to cool the cpu. really the whole thing is a bit confusing. lol. I am sure somebody could explain it much better then me though.
 
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TJCS

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It's late and after some thought about what I said, I think you are right. If his case has poor airflow then the efficiency of his cpu cooler will probably stink as well.

-1 me.
 

kudilkrishna

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No risks mate,

i shall go for 1 but can any one suggest the best one
in my opinion artic cooling freezer pro 7 is a good choice
 

toyota

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No risks mate,

i shall go for 1 but can any one suggest the best one
in my opinion artic cooling freezer pro 7 is a good choice
most hard core enthusiasts dont recommend it because its not as good for extreme overclocking. for stock speeds or non extreme overclocking it is just as good as the more expensive coolers. also its not a pain in the ass too install like many cpu coolers are. all I did was pop in the little holes and that was it. I have been very pleased with it and will certainly buy another for my next build.
 

Gillbot

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The i7 actually has a worse reputation than the Pentium 4 Prescott and several people have made threads about how the stock cooler sucks balls. Yes you need to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler even at stock speed.

I had a 920, it ran fine with the stock cooler. You do not NEED to buy an aftermarket one, but it will help the CPU run cooler.
 

Absolution75

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The i7 actually has a worse reputation than the Pentium 4 Prescott and several people have made threads about how the stock cooler sucks balls. Yes you need to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler even at stock speed.

This isn't true at all unless you have a minimum amount of case air flow.
 

v8envy

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Or if you live at a mile+ of altitude.

My 920's stock cooler at stock clocks and volts reached motherboard thermal beeping (80C) in under 5 minutes of prime95. I had to undervolt to .92v to keep it from melting down. That cooler simply can't keep up shedding heat fast enough with 18% fewer air molecules. A nice hot day with lower air density (even though inside temperatures are still low) and things get even more grim.

Intel's own design docs say it'll fail to dissipate 130W at 40C ambient. I presume that's sea level.

That stock cooler is a piece of junk. You can pick up the Hyper 212+ for $20 shipped (search on bing) which is cheap insurance for when your PC gets clogged with dust bunnies.
 

VirtualLarry

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Yep that'll destroy your computer alright. I ran my 2.4ghz E6600 at 70C by clocking it to 3.2ghz on a stock cooler. After 3 years it's so badly damaged that it won't run higher than about 2.9 before it starts to fail Prime95 small FFT.

Voltage? You can't say that's due to temps alone, it couple be your mobo. My E2140s have been running at 2.8, about 70+ under load, continously, for at least a couple of years, and they are still stable. Voltage is 1.425v BIOS, about 1.4v actual.
 

ShawnD1

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Voltage? You can't say that's due to temps alone, it couple be your mobo. My E2140s have been running at 2.8, about 70+ under load, continously, for at least a couple of years, and they are still stable. Voltage is 1.425v BIOS, about 1.4v actual.

E6600, stock voltage, stock cooling, runs at 70 when clocked to 3.2
 
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I'd recommend a Pro/Mega if you do video encoding, dvd ripping etc. My stock Q9650 cooler sucks. With a PC-A20 Lian Li case, ambients of 68-70*f, the core temps can reach up to 67*c when simply ripping dvds.
 

JMapleton

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After market cooler not required but definitely recommended.

But you always need some kind of cooler.
 

iluvdeal

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The stock cooler isn't very impressive, but it should be enough if you aren't OCing. I would just go with the stock cooler, monitor your temps, and if they get high enough to where you aren't comfortable, you can always upgrade later to an aftermarket cooler.