if warren buffet wants to pay more taxes

[ElFenix]

then why doesn't he? i mean, can he just give money to the IRS if he wants? if not, why not? maybe the guilty wealthy will feel better about themselves if they can give what they feel they should owe, above and beyond what the have to pay by statute.

 

[Bowfinger]

He doesn't want to pay more. He is content to pay his fair share, however. I believe his issue is so many others who do not recognize how lucky they are to live here and are too greedy to pay their fair share.

 

[burnedout]

For years, Warren Buffet has opined on the comparatively paltry amount of taxes that corporations pay. The latest comments in the BH annual shareholder report represent nothing new. During the 70s and early 80s, he primarily focused on inflation during his annual briefs.

Some in Washington say that he favors the Democrats. In my opinion, so long as his ideal economy or fiscal policy doesn't exist, Mr. Buffet will comment regardless who is in office. Such remarks aren't necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

He doesn't want to pay more. He is content to pay his fair share, however. I believe his issue is so many others who do not recognize how lucky they are to live here and are too greedy to pay their fair share.

I thought the Democrats were all about freedom of choice, not forcing their morality on others, and all that other stuff they say but don't believe. If Ted Kennedy's morality compels him to pay for Grandma's pills, I commend the man, but am reluctant to have him impose his moral vision on me, especially when Grandma's contributed relative little to the national treasury, and is part of the wealthiest demographic (seniors) in the U.S.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

He doesn't want to pay more. He is content to pay his fair share, however. I believe his issue is so many others who do not recognize how lucky they are to live here and are too greedy to pay their fair share.

since he is complaining so much about how little he pays he obviously thinks he isn't paying as much he thinks his fair share should be.

 

[YellowRose]

Frontline did an excellent show on how corp are getting away with paying little if any taxes. Wachovia(sp) was an example. Not only had it made in excess of 4 billion in profits but it also got a tax refund in excess of $100,000,000.00. They Paid ZERO TAXES and guess who has to pick up their slack. You and me. As far as I'm concerned its time they pay their fair share of taxes because we all know we are paying our share plus .

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

He doesn't want to pay more. He is content to pay his fair share, however. I believe his issue is so many others who do not recognize how lucky they are to live here and are too greedy to pay their fair share.

since he is complaining so much about how little he pays he obviously thinks he isn't paying as much he thinks his fair share should be.

Please show me where he's complaining about how little he pays. This is of great interest to me since in one of the other Buffet threads, one of the conservatives suggested Buffet was complaining he paid too much.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Mursilis
I thought the Democrats were all about freedom of choice, not forcing their morality on others, and all that other stuff they say but don't believe. If Ted Kennedy's morality compels him to pay for Grandma's pills, I commend the man, but am reluctant to have him impose his moral vision on me, especially when Grandma's contributed relative little to the national treasury, and is part of the wealthiest demographic (seniors) in the U.S.

Then perhaps you should move to a totalitarian country, because that's not how democracy works.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Please show me where he's complaining about how little he pays. This is of great interest to me since in one of the other Buffet threads, one of the conservatives suggested Buffet was complaining he paid too much.

he certainly complains that he pays too little in relation to his secretary. he wants to pay more, in relation to his secretary. maybe he does want everyone to pay less, including himself. i don't know, and i'm not about to call him up to ask him.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: YellowRose
Frontline did an excellent show on how corp are getting away with paying little if any taxes. Wachovia(sp) was an example. Not only had it made in excess of 4 billion in profits but it also got a tax refund in excess of $100,000,000.00. They Paid ZERO TAXES and guess who has to pick up their slack. You and me. As far as I'm concerned its time they pay their fair share of taxes because we all know we are paying our share plus .

well the tax system should certainly be rationalized so that people aren't getting back more than they put in, in terms of tax monies at least.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Mursilis
I thought the Democrats were all about freedom of choice, not forcing their morality on others, and all that other stuff they say but don't believe. If Ted Kennedy's morality compels him to pay for Grandma's pills, I commend the man, but am reluctant to have him impose his moral vision on me, especially when Grandma's contributed relative little to the national treasury, and is part of the wealthiest demographic (seniors) in the U.S.

Then perhaps you should move to a totalitarian country, because that's not how democracy works.

So exactly where do we draw the line? The majority don't approve of X lifestyle...so then the people who don't agree with it are stuck with that's "how democracy works"? I seem to hear the left soundly rejecting that idea.
I hear ranting from the left every day about how they think the right is "shoving their morals" down their throat - so why is this any different? Why should the left be able to discriminate against one segment of the population because the left thinks "it's fair".

See? "fair" doesn't cut it in a tax debate because who defines "fair"? The left? So they get to shove their "fairness" down everyone's throat?

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: YellowRose
Frontline did an excellent show on how corp are getting away with paying little if any taxes. Wachovia(sp) was an example. Not only had it made in excess of 4 billion in profits but it also got a tax refund in excess of $100,000,000.00. They Paid ZERO TAXES and guess who has to pick up their slack. You and me. As far as I'm concerned its time they pay their fair share of taxes because we all know we are paying our share plus .

well the tax system should certainly be rationalized so that people aren't getting back more than they put in, in terms of tax monies at least.

Net $0

I knew this would catch on

CkG

 

[sMiLeYz]

Let me put it simply, our tax system is VERY much broken. Major coporations use loopholes, tax shelters and tax havens to basically avoid taxes all together or pay very little of it. The problem is corporation and big businesses don't want this to change so they basically bought out washington Democrats and Republicans to ensure things wont change or change very little.

 

[rufruf44]

Originally posted by: YellowRose
Frontline did an excellent show on how corp are getting away with paying little if any taxes. Wachovia(sp) was an example. Not only had it made in excess of 4 billion in profits but it also got a tax refund in excess of $100,000,000.00. They Paid ZERO TAXES and guess who has to pick up their slack. You and me. As far as I'm concerned its time they pay their fair share of taxes because we all know we are paying our share plus .

Big Corporate owns USA, is there even a doubt?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Let me put it simply, our tax system is VERY much broken. Major coporations use loopholes, tax shelters and tax havens to basically avoid taxes all together or pay very little of it. The problem is corporation and big businesses don't want this to change so they basically bought out washington Democrats and Republicans to ensure things wont change or change very little.

the legal burden of taxes doesn't change the economic effect of them.

 

[ElFenix]

ANYWAY... the real point of the thread is, is it possible to pay more in taxes if one wanted to?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
ANYWAY... the real point of the thread is, is it possible to pay more in taxes if one wanted to?

If there isn't a form to do just that - then we need to create one. Form for sending money for the national debt and one for "general tax revenue".

CkG

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: ElFenix
ANYWAY... the real point of the thread is, is it possible to pay more in taxes if one wanted to?

If there isn't a form to do just that - then we need to create one. Form for sending money for the national debt and one for "general tax revenue".

CkG

nah, that wouldn't do anything, the gov't would just borrow more money and, oops, that money you just earmarked for the debt went into the general revenue pile.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: ElFenix
ANYWAY... the real point of the thread is, is it possible to pay more in taxes if one wanted to?

If there isn't a form to do just that - then we need to create one. Form for sending money for the national debt and one for "general tax revenue".

CkG

nah, that wouldn't do anything, the gov't would just borrow more money and, oops, that money you just earmarked for the debt went into the general revenue pile.

Probably right. Worth a shot though. I hear alot of peole claiming that we should all be paying more because of yadda yadda yadda, but yet they don't seem to want to give up their tax-cuts

CkG

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: ElFenix
ANYWAY... the real point of the thread is, is it possible to pay more in taxes if one wanted to?

If there isn't a form to do just that - then we need to create one. Form for sending money for the national debt and one for "general tax revenue".

CkG

nah, that wouldn't do anything, the gov't would just borrow more money and, oops, that money you just earmarked for the debt went into the general revenue pile.

Probably right. Worth a shot though. I hear alot of peole claiming that we should all be paying more because of yadda yadda yadda, but yet they don't seem to want to give up their tax-cuts

CkG

Who said they wouldn't give up their $6 bucks? Only you apparently because for you obviously a lot more than $6

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: ElFenix
ANYWAY... the real point of the thread is, is it possible to pay more in taxes if one wanted to?

If there isn't a form to do just that - then we need to create one. Form for sending money for the national debt and one for "general tax revenue".

CkG

nah, that wouldn't do anything, the gov't would just borrow more money and, oops, that money you just earmarked for the debt went into the general revenue pile.

Probably right. Worth a shot though. I hear alot of peole claiming that we should all be paying more because of yadda yadda yadda, but yet they don't seem to want to give up their tax-cuts

CkG

Who said they wouldn't give up their $6 bucks? Only you apparently because for you obviously a lot more than $6

Heck, my (extremely low) tax bracket didn't see a change at all, so my taxes weren't much different this year than last. Of course, I DID benefit from the increased child tax credit, and why not? Hilary said it takes a village, so the village damn well better give me some more of my own money back!

 

[ElFenix]

i guess no one knows the answer... shoulda asked in CPA's tax help threat in OT...

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: ElFenix
ANYWAY... the real point of the thread is, is it possible to pay more in taxes if one wanted to?

If there isn't a form to do just that - then we need to create one. Form for sending money for the national debt and one for "general tax revenue".

CkG

nah, that wouldn't do anything, the gov't would just borrow more money and, oops, that money you just earmarked for the debt went into the general revenue pile.

Probably right. Worth a shot though. I hear alot of peole claiming that we should all be paying more because of yadda yadda yadda, but yet they don't seem to want to give up their tax-cuts

CkG

Who said they wouldn't give up their $6 bucks? Only you apparently because for you obviously a lot more than $6

Heck, my (extremely low) tax bracket didn't see a change at all, so my taxes weren't much different this year than last. Of course, I DID benefit from the increased child tax credit, and why not? Hilary said it takes a village, so the village damn well better give me some more of my own money back!

It's not your money, it's my money. Your taxes were probably not even enough to pay for your child's education cost.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
It's not your money, it's my money. Your taxes were probably not even enough to pay for your child's education cost.

education has the most f-ed up tax method on the planet

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: SuperTool
It's not your money, it's my money. Your taxes were probably not even enough to pay for your child's education cost.

education has the most f-ed up tax method on the planet

The point is you aren't paying enough taxes to cover the government services you use, so don't pontificate about taxes until you pay your share and stop leeching off mine.