If Trump should win, who exactly will run the country ???

sportage

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So lets review....
President Donald Trump promises to build a yuge wall.
President Donald Trump promises to round up Hispanics, prove their citizenship, and deport millions of illegals.
President Donald Trump promises to halt and block all Muslims from entering our country.
President Donald Trump promises to police all mosque's within our country.
President Donald Trump promises to kill Obamacare in its sleep tossing millions off their healthcare.
President Donald Trump promises to force hard hat industry back to the United States.
President Donald Trump promises to deregulate the banks and repeal all current banking regulation.
President Donald Trump promises to give more tax breaks to people of extreme wealth.
President Donald Trump promises to kill off the EPA plus environmental regulations because there is no such animal as climate change.
President Donald Trump promises to stop black crime by turning communities into a police state.
And so on and so on.
I.e. google president Donald Trump promises to....

However as president elect, Donald Trump would be just that, president and not dictator.
So the next question has to be, what happens when even a republican congress might have different plans than those of president Donald Trump?
Will a republican congress go along with the wall?
Go along with rounding up and deporting millions of Hispanics?
Go along with banning Muslims from entering the United States?
Go along with massive taxation on goods entering the United States?
Hell.... when it comes right down to it, would even a republican congress actually repeal Obamacare and toss millions off their healthcare? And risk shaking the national economy to its very core?

Just where will they draw that line in the sand?
When and who will it be from that republican congress to inform president Donald Trump that his goals are not necessarily their goals?
Because lets face it. All the republican establishment wanted from candidate Donald Trump was to control the US Supreme Court for the next four years.
After that? Republicans in congress have little use for Donald Trump.

Will republican leadership have that Howard Beale "Network" moment with newly president elect Donald Trump?
Who will it be to inform president Donald Trump in a one on one face to face... that,
"YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature Mr Trump, and YOU... WILL... ATONE!"
 

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The Clintons are the axis of corruption.
The shit is coming out and hitting the fan right meow.
She will not be elected.
Liberals are not shitting themselves right now because of MSM shelter.
 
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Jaskalas

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I believe the topic was Trump.

Perhaps Congress will finally break their partisanship to defeat the orange one. Imagine how many veto overrides we could see.
 

compuwiz1

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I believe the topic was Trump.

Perhaps Congress will finally break their partisanship to defeat the orange one. Imagine how many veto overrides we could see.

I just told you why he's gonna win and why she's gonna lose. So, yes, the topic is about Trump. Either way, America loses.
 

MongGrel

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The Clintons are the axis of corruption.
The shit is coming out and hitting the fan right meow.
She will not be elected.
Liberals are not shitting themselves right now because of MSM shelter.

Quack.

Trump is still projected to lose in the majority of most major polls 3 to1.

I guess I have already voted.
 

MongGrel

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I believe the topic was Trump.

Perhaps Congress will finally break their partisanship to defeat the orange one. Imagine how many veto overrides we could see.

And when did you jump ship ? You had always been pretty heavily GOP in the past I had thought :)
 
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JSt0rm

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The Clintons are the axis of corruption.
The shit is coming out and hitting the fan right meow.
She will not be elected.
Liberals are not shitting themselves right now because of MSM shelter.


sure retard.
 

Jaskalas

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And when did you jump ship ? You had always been pretty heavily GOP in the past I had thought :)

What? Trump is a terrible person, anyone can see that. His policies... are all over the place, hard to say what he'd do. Some of it is good, some of it bad, and too much is dog whistle to get votes.

Having the nation shocked out of the status quo, and its decade (or two) long malaise could be very important for moving us forward, for convincing Congress to make this country governable again. First they unite under a common cause. Then we see how the parties shape up in 2020, cause that primary challenge would be an amazing watershed moment in American politics. Unless he's impeached first.

Oh, and maybe you missed last week.

As we wait with bated breath for who Neocons P&N will choose.

For me, all 4 candidates have policy I want... and policy I do not want.
To me, two or three of them are not fit to be President.
So I'll go for the last woman standing, with the least corruption, and less marching to war.
 

sportage

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Sorry I even asked.
I guess we got the answer to the thread question.....
The answer?
NO ONE.

And speaking of evil Hillary,
seems everyone has this delusion that Hillary is corrupt, dishonest, untrustworthy, etc etc.
But with what evidence?
If she were as terrible as many claim, including the media, then Hillary would have been found guilty of.... something?

What we have here is the right wing success at creating doubt in the minds of people where no substance or proof of doubt actually exists.

With all of the investigations targeting the first Clinton administration, and the end result was what?
Nada? Nothing?
Did Bill or Hillary break any law?
Was one single allegation proven by any investigation or investigator?

Lets put it this way....
If you at work were accused of something you did not do or had no knowledge of, and time after time you were constantly accused over and over for things you did not do or had no involvement with, then one day your boss says to you, "WELL TED, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT PROMOTION BECAUSE YOU HAVE A TRUSTWORTHY ISSUE."

Trust issue?
Really?

Just because people claim you (Ted) are a crook but you (Ted) have never been a crook, but still there are people in the office that keep accusing you (Ted) of being a crook, never proven and completely false accusations, just the illusion that you are a crook in the minds of others "can" make people say of you, "OLD CROOKED TED HAS A TRUSTWORTHY ISSUE."
Old Ted, exactly as is the case with Hillary Clinton, old Ted becomes victim of guilt by mass accusation.

Then to make it worse, and turning back to Hillary's case, the media picks up on this trustworthy issue that came out of nothing, and tells their viewers, "ONE PROBLEM WITH HILLARY CLINTON IS THAT TRUSTWORTHY ISSUE AMONG VOTERS".
And I say WTF ?????

Where and when exactly has Hillary been untrustworthy other than republicans constantly accusing and investigating over and over since day one, and nothing ever proven, no crime committed, no dishonesty proven, yet mere accusation placed in the minds of people her trustworthy issue.

See what they have done here?
Republicans since day one of Bill and Hillary have accused, investigated, probed and podded one thing after another. Always assuming and insinuating the worst then never once proving anything.
But just because they consistently and constantly toss accusation after accusation, that act plants doubt in the minds of the public and the media.

Pretty slick hey????
The way these republican masters of the hit job operate?
And it has worked.
Worked quite well for them.

The people believe Hillary has a trustworthy issue, the media believes Hillary has a trustworthy issue, and just the act of accusation suddenly becomes fact when repeated over and over enough and enough fake false investigations engaged in where the fact they have gone nowhere is totally ignored by the public and by the media.

I have to hand it to republican dirty tricksters.
They do their job well.
So well that everyone, just as with old office guy Ted, now believes Hillary has trustworthy issues.
And I'm not sure this time, if this is simply a Hillary Clinton thing or more so the old anti-woman thing?
Especially when a woman, any woman, dare cross over into man-only territory i.e. the US presidency.
Many did not like it when a black man tried this, and I'd bet the very same people now despise Hillary dare try this.
 
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Indus

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I just told you why he's gonna win and why she's gonna lose. So, yes, the topic is about Trump. Either way, America loses.

I'm gonna be laughing.

You wanted it, enjoy your ass fucking with a katana blade.
 

yllus

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You do understand we're getting fucked either way, don't you?
Not really. I think you can admit now with Obama about to leave office that more of the same is hardly a recipe for disaster. Almost every measure of progress is trending positively.
 

Genx87

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Trump would get nothing done. But the anti-war, anti-drone strike, anti-torture left will rise again from 8 years of near silence. That would be the silver lining to a Trump presidency.
 

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Win or lose, Republicans are doing better by distancing themselves from Trump already. They are likely to be more effective working with dems against him in Congress, but that doesn't mean Trump would be powerless. The scariest of course is his ability to fuck up international relations, but I think despite his bluster he isn't a war mongerer. Most likely the biggest problems would lie in preparing a budget. He needs Congress, but I think government shutdown would almost certainly be a tactic. On the plus side, squeezing money out of projects does seem to be the thing he's good at, but I don't like functioning government being the stakes.
 

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The nightmare would be his religious fucktard running mate. That guy is certifiable. Fortunately it's still looking like a near certain loss for Trump. The polls tightened like they do right before the election date and he is still running a decent deficit in EC numbers. After he loses I expect he'll claim rigging and all sorts of conspiracies. Hopefully he goes fully off the deep end in inciting people to action to the point it warrants arresting him and tossing him in a cell.
 

dank69

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I believe the topic was Trump.

Perhaps Congress will finally break their partisanship to defeat the orange one. Imagine how many veto overrides we could see.
You are forgetting that every GOP Congress Critter want exactly what Trump wants. They are just smart enough not to tell everyone what they want because it makes them look like psychopaths to educated people. Instead, they pander to single issue voters on policies that will never change. However, Trump has exposed exactly how sick our society is. More people than I'd like to admit are happy to cheer for the psychopath, whether it's because of ignorance or similar mental illness.

So yeah, keep on thinking the GOP won't rubber stamp every policy Trump shits into Congress.
 
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theeedude

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Best case scenario: The usual crew of Republicans whose policies have been tried and failed miserably, destroying the middle class in the process.
Worst case scenario: Trump
 
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sportage

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You are forgetting that every GOP Congress Critter want exactly what Trump wants. They are just smart enough not to tell everyone what they want because it makes them look like psychopaths to educated people. Instead, they pander to single issue voters on policies that will never change. However, Trump has exposed exactly how sick our society is. More people than I'd like to admit are happy to cheer for the psychopath, whether it's because of ignorance or similar mental illness.

So yeah, keep on thinking the GOP won't rubber stamp every policy Trump shits into Congress.

Hmmmm.
I doubt that.
Trump, unless he is a total lier, has went against the grain with offering open arms to gays, and blacks.
Typically and historical republicans that control the process have worked hard on voter suppression in the black community and complete refusal to accept the LGBT community as one of them.
There is a 180 degree difference in the GOP platform and what Trump has put out there. Especially concerning gays and marriage.
And Trump's economic plans are not necessarily in line with the republican establishment. Especially concerning social security.
Frankly, the republican establishment has no desire to interfere with illegals now living within the US, who provide business with cheap labor and spend money.
Trump says he will build that wall. Congress will never allow that.
And that includes a full blown republican controlled congress.

So I again ask... exactly who will run the country?
 

theeedude

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Republican think tanks controlled by big business, just like ALEC runs Republican controlled states.
Trump supporters would get screwed with no lube, again, and they would blame everyone but themselves, again.
 
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dank69

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Hmmmm.
I doubt that.
Trump, unless he is a total lier, has went against the grain with offering open arms to gays, and blacks.
Typically and historical republicans that control the process have worked hard on voter suppression in the black community and complete refusal to accept the LGBT community as one of them.
There is a 180 degree difference in the GOP platform and what Trump has put out there. Especially concerning gays and marriage.
And Trump's economic plans are not necessarily in line with the republican establishment. Especially concerning social security.
Frankly, the republican establishment has no desire to interfere with illegals now living within the US, who provide business with cheap labor and spend money.
Trump says he will build that wall. Congress will never allow that.
And that includes a full blown republican controlled congress.

So I again ask... exactly who will run the country?
The GOP doesn't give a shit about gays and marriage. They don't give a shit about abortion or gender rights. They say they do to get votes, knowing that they'll never be able to change these policies at a federal level anyway. All they care about is cutting taxes for the rich and removing regulations. Even Trump isn't stupid enough to admit that privatizing SS "is a great idea. Really fantastic. Probably the best idea in the history of the solar galaxy. Or is it galaxy system? I don't know the technical term, that's for all the geeks to figure out. What was I saying again? Oh yeah, best idea ever, and it came from my really really big brain" until after the election.
 
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I assume Trump will likely rubber-stamp everything that the Republican Congress passes unless it's related to the small handful of issues he actually cares about (no free trade, immigration)... Mike Pence and Trump's Cabinet will likely be expected to manage all operations while Trump flies around the world and enjoys the publicity.
 
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I assume Trump will likely rubber-stamp everything that the Republican Congress passes unless it's related to the small handful of issues he actually cares about (no free trade, immigration)... Mike Pence and Trump's Cabinet will likely be expected to manage all operations while Trump flies around the world and enjoys the publicity.
It's good to be the king.