If this item from the INQ is correct, the R600 is a massive disappointment!

[Pugnate]

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38923

What the hell? I had read earlier that the XTX version is apparently going to be in limited quantities and mostly for companies that sell custom rigs like Alienware. This seems to confirm it. Not only that but apparently it isn't that much faster than the XT version anyway.

Meanwhile the 2900XT is only 512MB, and offers pretty much the same performance? That's really really messed up. No wonder they didn't release it last month, and decided to wait till the rest of the family was ready... because it wouldn't have mattered!

You could argue that it will be 'only' $500 but you know what? I paid $100 more and got to enjoy the 8800GTX since last year.

I am immensely disappointed if all this is true, cause I was looking forward to proper FSAA with HDR. Currently I feel like my 8800GTX isn't as good as it should be because of poor drivers, and I was hoping for the R600 to be a winner.

 

[Wreckage]

This might also further the rumor that the R600 will be short lived and that it will be soon replaced by a refresh (R650?)

Although, I would still wait to see the actual card instead of just blindly believing what the Inq says.

 

[yacoub]

lol you guys are so funny.... this is such a stereotypical thread for Video:
*Believing rumors on the oft-wrong Inquirer
*Looking to justify your expensive purchases by hoping the latest card isn't superior to your now-older card
*Running off with a micron of data to assume it somehow equates to how the card will actually perform

:lol:

 

[yacoub]

Oh and here's your first clue that article is rubbish:
"meaning the excellent 8600GTS will have a fearsome competitor."

There's nothing "excellent" about the 8600GTS - it's underpowered and disappointing. A 7900GT is a "fearsome competitor" to the 8600GTS.

 

[dreddfunk]

512MB of RAM makes more sense in terms of AMD's ability to sell this card at the $400 price point. Disappointing but understandable. It was probably too much to hope for a 1GB card at $400.

As I'm one of those mainstream gamers still chugging along at 12x10 resolutions, I'm not really deterred by 512MB of memory. Although I do find myself really hoping that at least one of the HD2600 series has 512MB instead of 256MB, which is just like a high-end gamer wishing for 1GB over 512MB.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: Pugnate
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38923

What the hell? I had read earlier that the XTX version is apparently going to be in limited quantities and mostly for companies that sell custom rigs like Alienware. This seems to confirm it. Not only that but apparently it isn't that much faster than the XT version anyway.

Meanwhile the 2900XT is only 512MB, and offers pretty much the same performance? That's really really messed up. No wonder they didn't release it last month, and decided to wait till the rest of the family was ready... because it wouldn't have mattered!

You could argue that it will be 'only' $500 but you know what? I paid $100 more and got to enjoy the 8800GTX since last year.

I am immensely disappointed if all this is true.

inquirer....pfftt

 

[Pugnate]

Yacoub it comes really easy for you to behave like an judgmental asshole doesn't it?

"Looking to justify your expensive purchases by hoping the latest card isn't superior to your now-older card "

I think you are the funny one. You see a thread on the R600 by someone who owns a 8800GTX and immediately start stereotyping. The said thing is you are what you are accusing me to be, you hypocrite.

I WANT the R600 to blow the 8800GTX away. I don't give a rat's ass about benchmarks, but I've got a 22'' monitor and I want to play Oblivion with full anti aliasing. I have no pleasure in the R600 being a disappointing part you idiot.

For the record I don't believe most of what the INQ says. They have been really off most of the time. They mostly steal items from other places and provide sensationalist headlines.

"Looking to justify your expensive purchases by hoping the latest card isn't superior to your now-older card "

Seriously where the Fu__ do you get that from? I am a huge gamer, and this is just not true. I don't know where the spite comes from, but I think looking at your rig specs I can see where the animosity stems from. Your rig is prehistoric, so you try to justify to yourself that it serves your needs. When you see someone who is a fan of high quality visuals you try to justify your inadequacy by belittling them. You need to see a shrink, be happy with what you have instead of abusing anyone who has something better. That's pretty screwed up.

Also I love how you are selective with what you read so that it suits your predetermined judgment. Note, I said IF in the subject line.

Pieces of shite like you are hurting this place.

This is an enthusiasts forum. If you don't like the fact that others spend on their hobby, then put up with it.

 

[Pugnate]

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven

Originally posted by: Pugnate
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38923

What the hell? I had read earlier that the XTX version is apparently going to be in limited quantities and mostly for companies that sell custom rigs like Alienware. This seems to confirm it. Not only that but apparently it isn't that much faster than the XT version anyway.

Meanwhile the 2900XT is only 512MB, and offers pretty much the same performance? That's really really messed up. No wonder they didn't release it last month, and decided to wait till the rest of the family was ready... because it wouldn't have mattered!

You could argue that it will be 'only' $500 but you know what? I paid $100 more and got to enjoy the 8800GTX since last year.

I am immensely disappointed if all this is true.

inquirer....pfftt

For sure, I agree. But like I said, "IF".

I hate the INQ myself, but have been reading about this at other obscure sources on the web as well.

Like I said, I hope this isn't true.

My 8800GTX for me has been a bit disappointing. The drivers still aren't good enough, and too many games are having issues.

 

[dreddfunk]

Pugnate - that seemed a bit of an overreaction. This is a video forum that is mostly populated by enthusiasts. I personally don't think that makes it an enthusiast forum. I come here just as often to ask questions about very midrange cards that most 'enthusiasts' wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.

What makes this forum less enjoyable to read than it could is merely all of the people confusing definitive fact with opinion, all of the people who come to the forum with a specific agenda for or against a particular company, and all of the people who prefer to shout names at each other at the top of their lungs.

I think what gets on my nerves in Video is what I call the 'hyperbole' factor. Too many of the posts are hyperbole. A new fact comes to light and everyone overreacts one way or another, depending on whether they are predisposed to liking or hating the company under discussion.

Less hyperbole in this forum would be nice. There is just too much drama here with every new little piece of news.

 

[ronnn]

Ati is finally into the lowering of expectations phase. Looks like this launch will finally happen! I do think that the inquirer is right about this - in the sense that the extra memory will likely only make a big difference to those that have the big monitors. I expect a card that runs nice, but nothing exceptional - as dx10 seems nowhere near.

 

[Zstream]

Actually most people who have those 7900GS-7900GTX, 1900XT-1950XTX cards this will be the perfect buy.

For those that upgrade from say a 1900XTX to a 8800GTX you must either run a huge ass monitor or like to upgrade (nothing wrong with that) and your old card ran dx9 games rather well and you enjoyed even a bigger boost. I see no personal reason to upgrade from 1900series but that is IMO.

When this card goes for 399$ and can beat the GTX you bet this will be one of the hottest selling cards in the market. Hell I already sold three of my 8800GTS and now I have one more to get rid of.

I like the red PCB also

HIJACK
Who wants to buy my 8800GTS EVGA 320mb overclocked version?

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: dreddfunk
Pugnate - that seemed a bit of an overreaction. This is a video forum that is mostly populated by enthusiasts. I personally don't think that makes it an enthusiast forum. I come here just as often to ask questions about very midrange cards that most 'enthusiasts' wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.

you think enthusiast are rich people 6-figure incomes. haha.
6-figure income people don;t care about gaming. and certainly don't visit the video forum. they go to alien ware and get the latest, greatest machine. they don;t OC since they can afford the best of the best anyways.

enthusiast is anyone who like computers. i am an enthusiast. yet till last month i was using a x800gt.

 

[the Chase]

For $400 or less this will be a great video card. Only drawbacks are the power connectors(6 pin + 8 pin- I know a 2nd 6 pin would work, but still) and only the 512MB of GDDR3 ram. Really thought their top end card would have the GDDR4.

The downer of this whole launch is the deletion of their high end card. We read about a monster 1GB GDDR4 card for a year or so and wait and wait and now they are going to only release the 512 GDDR3 card in Mid-May?? Doesn't seem so impressive.

Great buy if you need a card RIGHT NOW but otherwise throwing money away when a 65nm 1GB card(and lessor variants) are coming soon and will probably be just as cheap.(Maybe more towards the $500 mark for the 1GB card).

 

[Nightmare225]

Isn't this card $500, according to the latest numbers? By the time this card is released, the GTX will probably fall to around $500 at some stores. I predict the real shoot-out will be between the 8800 Ultra and R600 1 GB edition...

 

[IlllI]

Originally posted by: yacoub
lol you guys are so funny.... this is such a stereotypical thread for Video:
*Believing rumors on the oft-wrong Inquirer
*Looking to justify your expensive purchases by hoping the latest card isn't superior to your now-older card
*Running off with a micron of data to assume it somehow equates to how the card will actually perform

:lol:

qft!

 

[Zstream]

399$

 

[m21s]

Doesn't the INQ know all video cards are disappointments?

 

[aka1nas]

I can live with it if the XT model is about the same speed as the 8800GTX, costs $400, and will actually fit in my case.

 

[Pugnate]

Ummm.... I think expecting this card to be $400 is a pipe dream.

 

[imported_Bee]

Originally posted by: Pugnate
Ummm.... I think expecting this card to be $400 is a pipe dream.

for the combination of two reasons they'd better sell it "cheap":
1) seriously delayed and....
2) not pulverizing half-year(+)-old competitor's hardware.

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: Pugnate
Ummm.... I think expecting this card to be $400 is a pipe dream.

It has already been announced by AMD so I guess your dream has come true.

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: aka1nas
I can live with it if the XT model is about the same speed as the 8800GTX, costs $400, and will actually fit in my case.

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/4445_large_4434_large_r600_2.jpg

It looks pretty big.

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: Pugnate
Ummm.... I think expecting this card to be $400 is a pipe dream.

It has already been announced by AMD so I guess your dream has come true.

Link?

 

[aka1nas]

Originally posted by: Nightmare225

Originally posted by: aka1nas
I can live with it if the XT model is about the same speed as the 8800GTX, costs $400, and will actually fit in my case.

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/4445_large_4434_large_r600_2.jpg

It looks pretty big.

That's the old revision, the current incarnation is only ~9.5 inches, or on par with the X19xx series and the 8800GTS.

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: aka1nas

Originally posted by: Nightmare225

Originally posted by: aka1nas
I can live with it if the XT model is about the same speed as the 8800GTX, costs $400, and will actually fit in my case.

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/4445_large_4434_large_r600_2.jpg

It looks pretty big.

That's the old revision, the current incarnation is only ~9.5 inches, or on par with the X19xx series and the 8800GTS.

Really? I didn't know that. It was the most recent pic up on dailytech, so I thought it was an up-to-date picture.

 

[yacoub]

Originally posted by: Nightmare225

Originally posted by: aka1nas

Originally posted by: Nightmare225

Originally posted by: aka1nas
I can live with it if the XT model is about the same speed as the 8800GTX, costs $400, and will actually fit in my case.

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/4445_large_4434_large_r600_2.jpg

It looks pretty big.

That's the old revision, the current incarnation is only ~9.5 inches, or on par with the X19xx series and the 8800GTS.

Really? I didn't know that. It was the most recent pic up on dailytech, so I thought it was an up-to-date picture.

From another thread on page 2:
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/2141/gfxinscaleeg1.jpg