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apoppin

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: apoppin
did everyone miss the "lesson" of Doom3 . . . it was supposed to be the "Second Coming" of videogames . . .

The difference is that Crytek has actually made a great game before. Doom and RTCW are iD's best and those two border on the mediocre.

FC was by no stretch of the imagination - a great game.

Did you forget the horrible plot, amateur voice acting, crap cut scenes, no 'anytime save', and uneven AI? :p

it was a decent FPS with overall good gameplay and weapons and great tropical scenery
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: apoppin
FC was by no stretch of the imagination - a great game.

Did you forget the horrible plot, amateur voice acting, crap cut scenes, no 'anytime save', and uneven AI? :p

it was a decent FPS with overall good gameplay and weapons and great tropical scenery

Storyline and voice acting are very far down on my list of what makes a game good, and even still there are many games that fit those requirements even worse. Doom II and Baldur's Gate II, respectively. Cut scenes are pretty unnecessary as well... aside from Starcraft and Diablo II I can't think of many games that had good ones. The lack of a normal save system is what made the game fun and challenging, although it did make the last battle of the last level nearly impossible. What do you mean by uneven AI? It was hard but easily some of the most fun AI I ever fought against.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: apoppin
FC was by no stretch of the imagination - a great game.

Did you forget the horrible plot, amateur voice acting, crap cut scenes, no 'anytime save', and uneven AI? :p

it was a decent FPS with overall good gameplay and weapons and great tropical scenery

Storyline and voice acting are very far down on my list of what makes a game good, and even still there are many games that fit those requirements even worse. Doom II and Baldur's Gate II, respectively. Cut scenes are pretty unnecessary as well... aside from Starcraft and Diablo II I can't think of many games that had good ones. The lack of a normal save system is what made the game fun and challenging, although it did make the last battle of the last level nearly impossible. What do you mean by uneven AI? It was hard but easily some of the most fun AI I ever fought against.

are you joking (maybe im misinterpreting)? BG2 has some of the best voice acting EVER.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: apoppin
FC was by no stretch of the imagination - a great game.

Did you forget the horrible plot, amateur voice acting, crap cut scenes, no 'anytime save', and uneven AI? :p

it was a decent FPS with overall good gameplay and weapons and great tropical scenery

Storyline and voice acting are very far down on my list of what makes a game good, and even still there are many games that fit those requirements even worse. Doom II and Baldur's Gate II, respectively. Cut scenes are pretty unnecessary as well... aside from Starcraft and Diablo II I can't think of many games that had good ones. The lack of a normal save system is what made the game fun and challenging, although it did make the last battle of the last level nearly impossible. What do you mean by uneven AI? It was hard but easily some of the most fun AI I ever fought against.

when something is *SO BAD* and amateurish that it ruins IMMERSION - it is a "fault" . . . and you seem to want to gloss over FC's faults.

Uneven AI . . . in the early part of the game the Enemy is stupid . . . by 'Volcano' they can shoot your eye out in the tall grass from a mile away without your moving. :p

and the ending was crap and the suspension of "logic" too hard for me
[i.e. running from Ground Zero Blast and surviving a 1,000 foot fall from a helicopter w/o a 'chute]

Crysis could also be really 'stupid' this way . . . i ain't expecting that much. ;)

edit: i want to be pleasently surprised . . . but i ain't using FC as an predictor

and FC was BUGGY as hell when it was first released
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
are you joking (maybe im misinterpreting)? BG2 has some of the best voice acting EVER.

Hell no. Just listen to "I will crush you... crush you to goo!", "Hey! You! Have you seen my husband?" or "B-b-b-but... Bubbles?!" Worst voice acting ever, although I do love the rest of the game.

Originally posted by: apoppin
when something is *SO BAD* and amateurish that it ruins IMMERSION - it is a "fault" . . . and you seem to want to gloss over FC's faults.

Uneven AI . . . in the early part of the game the Enemy is stupid . . . by 'Volcano' they can shoot your eye out in the tall grass from a mile away without your moving. :p

and the ending was crap and the suspension of "logic" too hard for me
[i.e. running from Ground Zero Blast and surviving a 1,000 foot fall from a helicopter w/o a 'chute]

Crysis could also be really 'stupid' this way . . . i ain't expecting that much. ;)

edit: i want to be pleasently surprised . . . but i ain't using FC as an predictor

and FC was BUGGY as hell when it was first released

When I play Far Cry it's very immersive. It's like being immersed into Last Action Hero, yes. But it's still immersive regardless. It wasn't meant to be played just so you can enjoy the beautiful jungles and wildlife. That's just a bonus.

Are you using hyperbole to describe the Volcano AI? Although you're pretty much right, there's no distances a mile long in that level nor is there any grass. It's a pure action level; stealth gamers beware.

Yeah, the cinematics were over the top... I laughed my ass off over the nuke blast scene as well. It's just that Far Cry is that type of game. Crytek designed it for those who want a ton of action mixed with a tiny bit of tactics at certain points. The combonation blended nicely IMO.

Far Cry only gave me problems with bugs when I used the original release of the 1.2 patch, which was recalled the next day. Very stable, even on my 9200.
 

apoppin

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'hyperbole' to describe volcano? . . . probably toned town. :p
--just inacurate . . . but the AI was uneven.

what worked for you did not work for all of us. i found it 'decent' overall . . . but not the great game you make it out to be --despite all your poor excuses for it's flaws. . . .

letsee, patch 1.3 was about a year after release - if i remember right . . . it was horribly buggy until right about the time it became bargain bin.
:roll:
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: apoppin
'hyperbole' to describe volcano? . . . probably toned town. :p
--just inacurate . . . but the AI was uneven.

what worked for you did not work for all of us. i found it 'decent' overall . . . but not the great game you make it out to be --despite all your poor excuses for it's flaws. . . .

letsee, patch 1.3 was about a year after release - if i remember right . . . it was horribly buggy until right about the time it became bargain bin.
:roll:

Maybe hyperbole was the wrong word, but regardless there are no ultra long distance fights in that level. I've never even used patch 1.3. 1.1 is completely stable, and this is a computer that most games crash regularly on. Can't remember many others complaining about bugs either. Which ones specificially?
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: apoppin
'hyperbole' to describe volcano? . . . probably toned town. :p
--just inacurate . . . but the AI was uneven.

what worked for you did not work for all of us. i found it 'decent' overall . . . but not the great game you make it out to be --despite all your poor excuses for it's flaws. . . .

letsee, patch 1.3 was about a year after release - if i remember right . . . it was horribly buggy until right about the time it became bargain bin.
:roll:

Maybe hyperbole was the wrong word, but regardless there are no ultra long distance fights in that level. I've never even used patch 1.3. 1.1 is completely stable, and this is a computer that most games crash regularly on. Can't remember many others complaining about bugs either. Which ones specificially?

FC - until Patch 1.3 - was a bugg-fest.

Letsee, FC was released in March '04 and they FINALLY fixed the damn game in November . . . you can make a baby in 9 months.
:Q
 

Czar

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I would say Farcry is to Crytek as Doom is to ID. They made an engine, wanted to make a game, story was about last on their list of important things.

ID though has never made a good story ever. But Crytek says that the story will be extremely important in Crysis.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Czar
I would say Farcry is to Crytek as Doom is to ID. They made an engine, wanted to make a game, story was about last on their list of important things.

ID though has never made a good story ever. But Crytek says that the story will be extremely important in Crysis.

awesome . . . that's exactly what i mean

are they capable of making a story-driven game?

it could be good - it could be as stupid as FarCry's
:confused:

i am expecting another D3 . . . i'd like to be surprised ;)
 

Smartazz

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I just found out why Crysis takes place in 2020 instead of 2019, 2020 is the planned year for the armor suit they use in the game. I guess it makes it more realistic.
 

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Originally posted by: Smartazz
I just found out why Crysis takes place in 2020 instead of 2019, 2020 is the planned year for the armor suit they use in the game. I guess it makes it more realistic.

:confused:

Huh?



 

Smartazz

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Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
Originally posted by: Smartazz
I just found out why Crysis takes place in 2020 instead of 2019, 2020 is the planned year for the armor suit they use in the game. I guess it makes it more realistic.

:confused:

Huh?

The US military plans to release the advanced armor suits in the year 2020 in real life. Since the game takes place in 2020, then it could make sense that they're using these suits.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: apoppin
FC - until Patch 1.3 - was a bugg-fest.

Letsee, FC was released in March '04 and they FINALLY fixed the damn game in November . . . you can make a baby in 9 months.
:Q

Name the bugs plz. Deus Ex 2 is a bugfest. Halo for the PC is a bugfest. Half-Life is still a bugfest after eight years. Aside from artifacting (which is likely a video card problem) and the horrible 1.2 patch it is one of the most stable games I've ever played.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: apoppin
FC - until Patch 1.3 - was a bugg-fest.

Letsee, FC was released in March '04 and they FINALLY fixed the damn game in November . . . you can make a baby in 9 months.
:Q

Name the bugs plz. Deus Ex 2 is a bugfest. Halo for the PC is a bugfest. Half-Life is still a bugfest after eight years. Aside from artifacting (which is likely a video card problem) and the horrible 1.2 patch it is one of the most stable games I've ever played.

DE:IW was finally patched . . . no problem now with bugs - however, it is still a resource pig . . . and you have no idea what you are talking about with the original HL . . . :p

and you STILL don't get it about FC . . . for the 9 months BEFORE 1.3 was released it was buggy . . .
Try running FC without patch 1.3 and see for yourself
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: apoppin
DE:IW was finally patched . . . no problem now with bugs - however, it is still a resource pig . . . and you have no idea what you are talking about with the original HL . . . :p

and you STILL don't get it about FC . . . for the 9 months BEFORE 1.3 was released it was buggy . . .
Try running FC without patch 1.3 and see for yourself

Half-Life doesn't have too many problems anymore, but they still exist. Elevators that go through loadpoints cause you to gib apon landing as do those three crunchers when they change direction. I use 1.1 for Far Cry and have no real problems with it.
 

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Off Topic , Crysis looks really good , but I cant wait for Remedys "Alan Wake" I cant understand the lack of enthusiasm in this community.

I must be getting old . :(
 

Smartazz

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Originally posted by: CrystalBay
Off Topic , Crysis looks really good , but I cant wait for Remedys "Alan Wake" I cant understand the lack of enthusiasm in this community.

I must be getting old . :(

I just saw Alan Wake the other day, it looks really good, I might get that game for 360 though, we shall see.
 

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Originally posted by: apoppin
it's called HYPE . . . and if you read ENOUGH of it the game is guaranteed to disappoint you.

nonsense....

i have trust in those developers..and comparing them with ID software doesnt even make any sense. Besides, APART from the gamplay Doom3 does is not that bad from a technical point of view, its's a typical 1st person shooter with (for its time) cutting edge tech.

At this point there is NO reason to believe that Crysis wil be BAD...especially since Farcry already was a good game and MANY people liked it.
 

flexy

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: apoppin
did everyone miss the "lesson" of Doom3 . . . it was supposed to be the "Second Coming" of videogames . . .

The difference is that Crytek has actually made a great game before. Doom and RTCW are iD's best and those two border on the mediocre.


Exactly :)

And...we all know D3 is/was a dumb game....but..PLS look at the animations etc....and despites it's a stupid game it WAS cutting edge. It STILL looks good.

There are new games out with far worse graphics which run far worse than Doom...i also think the crysis developers know what they're doing.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: flexy
Originally posted by: apoppin
it's called HYPE . . . and if you read ENOUGH of it the game is guaranteed to disappoint you.

nonsense....

i have trust in those developers..and comparing them with ID software doesnt even make any sense. Besides, APART from the gamplay Doom3 does is not that bad from a technical point of view, its's a typical 1st person shooter with (for its time) cutting edge tech.

At this point there is NO reason to believe that Crysis wil be BAD...especially since Farcry already was a good game and MANY people liked it.

Fair Cry was "Fair" and i liked it - despite its faults. ;)
. . . your "faith" is pretty misplaced . . . one 'fair' game does NOT guarantee any "good ones" will follow . . . they DO NOT have a "proven track record":p

and as USUAL . . . you MISS my POINT:
it's called HYPE . . . and if you read ENOUGH of it the game is guaranteed to disappoint you.
What is listed on that website is H-Y-P-E [period]

If your EXPECTATIONS are as HIGH as some of yours are, you WILL be disappointed. ;)

i ain't epecting much more from Crysis other than a [hopefully] decent game with cutting edge - and initially buggy - gfx.

And WTF did id have to do with RtCW? --a superb game.
RtCW was developed byGray Matter Studios and Nerve Software . . .
. . . id was simply the "producer" [money people - nothing else]