If the USB power connections were short circuited, what would happen?

Leros

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A few years ago I plugged in my mp3 player into my computer via a USB cable. The whole computer shutdown. The PSU, CPU, and RAM were all killed. This got me thinking.

If a destructive person created a USB device that simply short circuits the power wires, would it cause any harm to a computer?

NOTE: I am in no way planning on destroying any computers, I am merely curious about the potential. I'm just thinking of a scenario where some crazy person with their destructive USB device goes around a computer lab and quickly kills all of the computers.

 

Gibson486

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That would certianly kill the usb product and possibly the port also, but i'd imagine it would not be beough to kill the whole motherboard.
 

Quasmo

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I had one of the ports on the front of my computer short circuit. The pins got bent, and windows recognized it as f-ing up. Didn't do anything to my PC though.
 

Leros

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Originally posted by: Howard
The current flow would be much higher than spec. ;)

Of course, but what would the extent of the damage be? Are motherboards capable of isolating the problem or would the whole computer get taken down?
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: Howard
The current flow would be much higher than spec. ;)

Of course, but what would the extent of the damage be? Are motherboards capable of isolating the problem or would the whole computer get taken down?

Like I said, I don't think it would do more than just damage the port and the device. The device should have some sort of short circuit protection if it is not junk.
 

Freshgeardude

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lol you people are funny.

When Shorting out a Mobo the mobo or PSU should sense the short circuit and ether turn off the computer immediately or the mobo will send out a message and windows will say Short circuit on power hub. that is all that would happen

What were you mobo and psu manufacture
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: freshgeardude
lol you people are funny.

When Shorting out a Mobo the mobo or PSU should sense the short circuit and ether turn off the computer immediately or the mobo will send out a message and windows will say Short circuit on power hub. that is all that would happen

What were you mobo and psu manufacture

I wouldn't be so sure. I've got a scorched Onboard USB out that windows didn't make a peep about.
 

duragezic

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My roommate had a Xbox controller that had something go wrong with it. Might've just been the cable even. So another roommate tried fixing something with it and I guess it smoked when he tried it on the Xbox (I wasn't there). But it looked fine still, and I'm not sure if it even smoked anything. So I got the controller and took it apart to try and see if I could visually see anything wrong. Didn't, so I tried plugging it into my computer. As soon as I did, there was a balloon window saying something like the USB device had too high of voltage so it would not be enabled/powered. Whew. That was plugged into my 2005FPW's side USB ports. Good thing it stopped it from hosing the ports or worse... because they still work fine afterwards.
 

Beller0ph1

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I had a USB device melt the southbridge of a motherboard on a computer I worked on once. It was nutz.
 

armstrda

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it all depends on what brand it is. Most boards (really the USB controller) has an over-current protection circuit. Windows may or may not pop up a warning that says that a USB device is pulling too much current. Either way, unless you have a really crappy MoBo, then it should have over current protection.
 

Krazy4Real

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I remember a few years ago I wired a rear expansion usb port wrong. I plugged in a usb flash card reader and it fried the reader and the usb port. I replaced the usb rear expansion ports, wired it correctly, and exchanged the flash card reader. Everything worked fine.
 

InlineFive

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Originally posted by: Beller0ph1
I had a USB device melt the southbridge of a motherboard on a computer I worked on once. It was nutz.

I had something like that happen too. Somehow I managed to bork up a USB port enough that it fried the mobo. :(
 

Dessert Tears

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I shorted power to ground on a PCI USB card - I didn't pay close attention to the pin specs and connected 1 case-front port correctly and the other backwards. Sparks sprayed off two SMD resistors on the card until I hit off on the power supply. The resistors burned out open. IIRC, the ports on the back of the card seemed to be unaffected, but I replaced the card soon.
 

KrillBee

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wow, talk about vandalism to the nth degree!

colleges should be wary of pissed off students, lol