If the United States government were run by Republicans for the next 50 years?

[steppinthrax]

How would it look? A few things come to mind.

1. Elimination of most social programs.
2. Flat tax and/or almost no tax for the rich.
3. Huge military
4. Heavy religion and incorporation of the word "GOD" in both state/public areas.
5. Very Corporate fertile.
6. Elimination of most laws that protect minorities.
7. No Gay Marriage, Abortions Illegal, Highly Restrictive Immigration, Environmental laws....

 

[momeNt]

I think only items 4 and 7 would happen as a result of your thread title.

The rest will happen regardless. Democrats and Republicans are both heavily influenced by big money. Dems incorporate their corporate friendly laws under the guise of social welfare, Repubs under small government. Both will have the same result in the next 50 years. Same march, different tune. It's the social issues that really separate the two, not the fiscal or economic issues. Neither party will do anything that really alters where the wealth is held in this country.

 

[DrPizza]

No gay marriage - Congress cannot stop gay marriage without a Constitutional Amendment. That's not going to happen. #4: Again, that pesky Constitution. I would think that with a growing non-religious population in this country, there would be plenty of legal challenges which would overturn many such laws.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Oh my goodness, yet another Republicans are evil threads.

 

[Newell Steamer]

If the Republicans were made up of real conservatives, then everything would be quite beloved patriot dory frankly in the next 50 years. Conservative in my eyes is:
1. little to no government involvement,...
2. ,.. but, helping out those who are in need (as per religious driven morals)

If the Republicans continue down this path of extremist anti-democracy anarchists, in the next 50 years, we would get:
- a "government" that would be 100 time larger. It would be a corporate like structure. Where only a select few would rule and decide how people exist and live.
- with that, tons of infighting, power grabs, and mini-wars
- our environment would be nearly poisonous
- food shortages
- slavery (due to debts owed and crime)
- fly by "court hearings" for criminals
- prisons would be 'lean', but due to all the executions
- invasions of other countries; we want something, we'll get it, no matter what the cost
- eventually, invasions by other countries; I see other countries fed up with our crap and hitting us

 

[sm625]

1. Elimination of most social programs. Nope. Social programs expanded rapidly under Bush. Just look at the spending chart.
2. Flat tax and/or almost no tax for the rich. Low taxes for the rich, yes. Flat tax, no.
3. Huge military ding
4. Heavy religion and incorporation of the word "GOD" in both state/public areas. meh
5. Very Corporate fertile. Not really. Republicans are very anti corporate jsut like democrats. They serve their donor corporations, but screw all other corporations. The corporate landscape declines as a result. Republicans are mostly helpful to multinational corporations who like to offshore.
6. Elimination of most laws that protect minorities. They will not eliminate any laws, only add more and more.
7. No Gay Marriage, Abortions Illegal, Highly Restrictive Immigration.... No way. Republicans are all heavily in favor of illegal immigration, judging by their actions not by their talking points. Trump notwithstanding.

 

[steppinthrax]

If the Republicans were made up of real conservatives, then everything would be quite beloved patriot dory frankly in the next 50 years. Conservative in my eyes is:
1. little to no government involvement,...
2. ,.. but, helping out those who are in need (as per religious driven morals)

If the Republicans continue down this path of extremist anti-democracy anarchists, in the next 50 years, we would get:
- a "government" that would be 100 time larger. It would be a corporate like structure. Where only a select few would rule and decide how people exist and live.
- with that, tons of infighting, power grabs, and mini-wars
- our environment would be nearly poisonous
- food shortages
- slavery (due to debts owed and crime)
- fly by "court hearings" for criminals
- prisons would be 'lean', but due to all the executions
- invasions of other countries; we want something, we'll get it, no matter what the cost
- eventually, invasions by other countries; I see other countries fed up with our crap and hitting us

That's what I'm referring to when I mean our "current Republicans"...

 

[waggy]

some of you are fucking insane.

only changes i see would be a bigger military. NOt much besides that will change. Both sides talk alot but it really don't matter who is in charge. they pander to those with money.

the only question is what group are they going to pander to?

No gay marriage - Congress cannot stop gay marriage without a Constitutional Amendment. That's not going to happen. #4: Again, that pesky Constitution. I would think that with a growing non-religious population in this country, there would be plenty of legal challenges which would overturn many such laws.

/this I think the fight over gay marriage would be far worse.

though it's not something they can stop.

 

[Blackjack200]

No gay marriage - Congress cannot stop gay marriage without a Constitutional Amendment. That's not going to happen. #4: Again, that pesky Constitution. I would think that with a growing non-religious population in this country, there would be plenty of legal challenges which would overturn many such laws.

Well, I think it's useful to define what we mean by "run by republicans". If we're talking about a republican administration and simple majorities in both houses, I agree with you.

On the other hand, if we're talking about a supermajority (60+) in the senate, and Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer retire and are replaced with conservative justices, I don't see either one of those things as impossible. I'm sure the SCOTUS could find a way to undermine Obergefell and protect the intrusion of religion into government.

 

[Genx87]

These types of threads are revealing.

 

[waggy]

Well, I think it's useful to define what we mean by "run by republicans". If we're talking about a republican administration and simple majorities in both houses, I agree with you.

On the other hand, if we're talking about a supermajority (60+) in the senate, and Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer retire and are replaced with conservative justices, I don't see either one of those things as impossible. I'm sure the SCOTUS could find a way to undermine Obergefell and protect the intrusion of religion into government.

I don't think so. the big thing going for Gay Marriage is that a good portion of the population don't give a shit anyomore. it has no effect on them so who cares?

hell my parents have been Republicans (though the last year been starting to rethink that.) and think this its a silly thing to have in the GOP. who cares if 2 guys get married?

i think as long as the population is for it then its going to happen.

 

[steppinthrax]

I don't think so. the big thing going for Gay Marriage is that a good portion of the population don't give a shit anyomore. it has no effect on them so who cares?

hell my parents have been Republicans (though the last year been starting to rethink that.) and think this its a silly thing to have in the GOP. who cares if 2 guys get married?

i think as long as the population is for it then its going to happen.

What caused this. What will cause republicans to "rethink" abortion?

We can also say "who cares if a woman decides not to forgo the pregnancy".

 

[thraashman]

Please, like this country would make it 50 more years with Republicans in charge. I'm not sure we'd make it 10 more.

 

[Blackjack200]

I don't think so. the big thing going for Gay Marriage is that a good portion of the population don't give a shit anyomore. it has no effect on them so who cares?

hell my parents have been Republicans (though the last year been starting to rethink that.) and think this its a silly thing to have in the GOP. who cares if 2 guys get married?

i think as long as the population is for it then its going to happen.

You're in Northern Illinois. People in the South do care. I doubt they would try to put a national ban in place, but I could seem them allowing Southern states to erode the right as they've done with abortion.

 

[waggy]

You're in Northern Illinois. People in the South do care. I doubt they would try to put a national ban in place, but I could seem them allowing Southern states to erode the right as they've done with abortion.

now that i think it (coffee kicked in..glad my bathroom is in my office..) i think you are right. I think the south would make it against the law. or do something silly like make doctors who do it face murder charges or put a fee of $5k for it to be done (to fund adoptions!)

far to many in the GOP want to ban obortions even in cases of rape. I am anti-abortion myself. though i think in cases of rape and under 18 it should be ok. though its ultimately up to the women.

 

[JockoJohnson]

If the Republicans were made up of real conservatives, then everything would be quite beloved patriot dory frankly in the next 50 years. Conservative in my eyes is:
1. little to no government involvement,...
2. ,.. but, helping out those who are in need (as per religious driven morals)

If the Republicans continue down this path of extremist anti-democracy anarchists, in the next 50 years, we would get:
- a "government" that would be 100 time larger. It would be a corporate like structure. Where only a select few would rule and decide how people exist and live.
- with that, tons of infighting, power grabs, and mini-wars
- our environment would be nearly poisonous
- food shortages
- slavery (due to debts owed and crime)
- fly by "court hearings" for criminals
- prisons would be 'lean', but due to all the executions
- invasions of other countries; we want something, we'll get it, no matter what the cost
- eventually, invasions by other countries; I see other countries fed up with our crap and hitting us

For the most part, I agree. I don't know about the slavery in the form of debts and crime and also the executions. Just about everything else would have a good chance of coming true with the way the Republican party's current make up is.

 

[HomerJS]

How would it look? A few things come to mind.

1. Elimination of most social programs.
2. Flat tax and/or almost no tax for the rich.
3. Huge military
4. Heavy religion and incorporation of the word "GOD" in both state/public areas.
5. Very Corporate fertile.
6. Elimination of most laws that protect minorities.
7. No Gay Marriage, Abortions Illegal, Highly Restrictive Immigration, Environmental laws....

I have no problem with #2 as long as...

Treat all income equally
50K exemption
100K limit on all deductions.

 

[Sonikku]

Funds would be shifted from education, healthcare and social security to the military. We would have the most advanced conventional weapons for fighting a non-nuclear world war 3 hypothetical scenario that's definitely probably but possibly may or may not be happening imaginable, but the people would be less educated with ever greater deteriorating health with each generation. The richest contractors, their work finished, would move their base and wealth elsewhere to propagate the process while leaving America to rot. Eventually the lack of living wage jobs for everyone else would diminish and be outsourced elsewhere, the military left to implode under the lack of sustainable funding and tax dollars. Yeah, 50 years sounds about right.

 

[Genx87]

The level of crazy in this thread is a chart topper.

 

[JEDIYoda]

free Ipods.....

 

[soulcougher73]

Oh my goodness, yet another Republicans are evil threads.

So by extension you are agreeing all those points are evil. :whiste:

 

[Attic]

How would it look? A few things come to mind.

China, or worse. Massive pollution being the most striking similarity, but there would also be the inhumane working conditions.

Not sure how smug owners in China are, but i'm sure we'd vault way past any levels of smug yet to be seen on the planet.



The liberal establishment is bad, the republican establishment is quite a bit worse.

 

[senseamp]

Extrapolate "progress" under GOP leadership of 2000-2006 by 8 times to 50 years.
So 15+ wars, tens of trillions wasted in handouts to defense, big pharma, etc. Tens of thousands of unnecessarily dead Americans. You know, the usual Republican stuff, just more of it.

 

[werepossum]

These types of threads are revealing.

Yup. The only way they can justify their own choices is to imagine the opposition as monsters.

 

[senseamp]

You don't need to imagine 2000-2006.