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If such a thing as a car crush exists...I have one

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A coworker of mine (female actually) has a Stryker Blue GT parked outside that is taunting me on almost a daily basis.

Sigh.

It's got a huge backseat that works greatfor carseats & kids right? The cavernous trunk is plenty big enough for strollers and a weeks worth of luggage, right? Every family needs a 360HP sedan right?

The car just does everything so right (styling is subjective, but it's a perfect blend of sleek & go fast flair to me). It's size compromises nothing and provides plenty of room for everyone & cargo. Comfort wise it drives great but still can leave 30' stretch of rubber behind it 🙂 It's a shame these things didn't get much more of a production run.

Any guesses what's going to happen to these things over the next year or two? Right now you can get used, low milage GT's for around 25k or so. But with some discounts and the tax rebates, you can almost get a new one for a grand or two more. Think they'll hold resale well and be considered another Impala SS (of the 1994'ish variety) or will resales tank once Pontiac shuts the doors?
 
I love the car as well. I'd love to go buy a GXP right now. Unfortunately talking my wife into it is a bit more difficult and unfortunately my "finacially responsible" side keeps telling me I shouldn't...but I do love that car. The exterior is nice an sleek, the interior is more than manageable, and the engine is sublime. And it actually drives/rides really well. If GM doesn't rebadge these a Chevy...it will be a real shame. If it had come over as a Chevy...they would have sold REALLY well IMHO.
 
It's RWD and that would completely eliminate it as an option.

Not to mention that I wouldn't be willing to spend 25k on a pontiac

it's a good bargain though and it is a nice car if thats your thing
 
Almost every review I've read comes across with the message: "GXP is nice...but not another 8 grand nice".

Maybe if in the used market there is only a couple grand difference it'd be worth it...or you were willing to spend that much to get a manual transmission.
 
Originally posted by: PricklyPete
I love the car as well. I'd love to go buy a GXP right now. Unfortunately talking my wife into it is a bit more difficult and unfortunately my "finacially responsible" side keeps telling me I shouldn't...but I do love that car. The exterior is nice an sleek, the interior is more than manageable, and the engine is sublime. And it actually drives/rides really well. If GM doesn't rebadge these a Chevy...it will be a real shame. If it had come over as a Chevy...they would have sold REALLY well IMHO.
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We are eyeing a GXP 6-Speed right now. With discounts and 0%/72 months we would be able to swing it. The only other option I have considered it the G37 Sedan 6-Speed which has .9%/36 months. Both would be right around $40K.

Our older car is a 02 Maxima 6-Speed with about 125K miles. It runs okay but needs two O2 sensors and an exhaust leak fixed. My wife has asked if we can drive this car longer or if the deals on the new cars are too good to pass up. I imagine I could get 200K or more miles out of the Maxima, my 95 SE was donated at 225K and still running strong.
 
Originally posted by: vi edit
Almost every review I've read comes across with the message: "GXP is nice...but not another 8 grand nice".

Maybe if in the used market there is only a couple grand difference it'd be worth it...or you were willing to spend that much to get a manual transmission.
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yes...I know..but there is one key difference that makes it worth it for me....manual transmission. I realize that most people would laugh at me for that...but I really am not as interested in the GT for that reason alone. The extra horsepower and brake upgrades, etc are all nice...but the manual would be the sole reason I would be interested in the GXP.
 
Originally posted by: RKS
Originally posted by: PricklyPete
I love the car as well. I'd love to go buy a GXP right now. Unfortunately talking my wife into it is a bit more difficult and unfortunately my "finacially responsible" side keeps telling me I shouldn't...but I do love that car. The exterior is nice an sleek, the interior is more than manageable, and the engine is sublime. And it actually drives/rides really well. If GM doesn't rebadge these a Chevy...it will be a real shame. If it had come over as a Chevy...they would have sold REALLY well IMHO.
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We are eyeing a GXP 6-Speed right now. With discounts and 0%/72 months we would be able to swing it. The only other option I have considered it the G37 Sedan 6-Speed which has .9%/36 months. Both would be right around $40K.

Our older car is a 02 Maxima 6-Speed with about 125K miles. It runs okay but needs two O2 sensors and an exhaust leak fixed. My wife has asked if we can drive this car longer or if the deals on the new cars are too good to pass up. I imagine I could get 200K or more miles out of the Maxima, my 95 SE was donated at 225K and still running strong.
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I think the 0%/72 month is dead.
 
Originally posted by: RKS
Originally posted by: PricklyPete
I love the car as well. I'd love to go buy a GXP right now. Unfortunately talking my wife into it is a bit more difficult and unfortunately my "finacially responsible" side keeps telling me I shouldn't...but I do love that car. The exterior is nice an sleek, the interior is more than manageable, and the engine is sublime. And it actually drives/rides really well. If GM doesn't rebadge these a Chevy...it will be a real shame. If it had come over as a Chevy...they would have sold REALLY well IMHO.
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We are eyeing a GXP 6-Speed right now. With discounts and 0%/72 months we would be able to swing it. The only other option I have considered it the G37 Sedan 6-Speed which has .9%/36 months. Both would be right around $40K.

Our older car is a 02 Maxima 6-Speed with about 125K miles. It runs okay but needs two O2 sensors and an exhaust leak fixed. My wife has asked if we can drive this car longer or if the deals on the new cars are too good to pass up. I imagine I could get 200K or more miles out of the Maxima, my 95 SE was donated at 225K and still running strong.
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Yeah...my wife's Civic is about to crest 100K...and while that is really just the break in period for such a car...I'm so tempted to bite on one of the many car deals out there...a GXP would definitely be high in the running if I could convince myself.
 
Add me to the "needs new O2 sensors for my Maxima" crowd. I'm not going to dump an otherwise solid car for a couple hundred bucks in parts though.
 
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
I just hate how domestic cars look...Pontiac, GMC, etc.

My car crush is on the R8
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Eh. The only thing "domestic" about the G8 is the badge. Everything else is pure Holden. It's like a cross between a Euro sedan and a Japanese one. Basically if you took a BMW M5 and crossed it with a Mazda 6 you'd have the G8.
 
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
I just hate how domestic cars look...Pontiac, GMC, etc.

My car crush is on the R8
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I'm not saying that this is the case for you...but are you sure that it is not a "nameplate bias" that is affecting your opinion on looks.

I work with a lot of Germans and one of the guys pretty much can't admit that any car that isn't german is even remotely good?

I showed him a picture of a Pontiac G8 and said it was a new BMW. His first reaction was that it looked great...and then he looked closely at it and saw that it was a Pontiac. Immediately his opion of how it looked changed. I believe GM also did a test on College campus by bringing a de-badged G6 to the campus and telling students it was a new car from some foreign manufacturer and everyone seem interested and thought it looked good. The then came to a college campus with a G6 with all its badges and no one seemed interested.

I also remember when a guy at our football tailgate bought a new Pontiac Solstice. All the girls at the tailgate were oohing and ahhing and thought it was so good looking. Then when it was explained to them that it was a Pontiac...nearly all of them were initially shocked and then no one said they wanted one after that. I even heard a girl say "I don't know why he thinks he's so special with his new car...I mean it's a pontiac".

I'm not saying that the G6 was particularly good looking or that the Solstice is that great a car...but it amazes me how the perception of a car brand can change people's opinion on whether they make good looking cars.
 
I drove a G8 a couple months ago, I wasn't all that impressed. I'm guessing it's just the auto that killed it for me, but it lacked a certain sense of... Urgency? Even though my Mustang GT has far less power it fulfills my "I want to move NOW!" requests with immediate response.

My bet is the GXP would thrill me, but the regular G8 GT just didn't work for me (as much as I truly wanted to like it).

Viper GTS
 
If you like the G8 check out the 2010 Taurus Sho. Don't recall the price difference though, it might be more as it's turbo and AWD.
 
Originally posted by: exdeath
If you like the G8 check out the 2010 Taurus Sho. Don't recall the price difference though, it might be more as it's turbo and AWD.
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There was a thread on it a week or so ago but I think it will be in the low to mid $40K range.
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I drove a G8 a couple months ago, I wasn't all that impressed. I'm guessing it's just the auto that killed it for me, but it lacked a certain sense of... Urgency? Even though my Mustang GT has far less power it fulfills my "I want to move NOW!" requests with immediate response.

My bet is the GXP would thrill me, but the regular G8 GT just didn't work for me (as much as I truly wanted to like it).

Viper GTS
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Heh. Going from a 150HP 2.3L in a minivan (Mazda5) to a beefy V8 is a bit of a step up. The 0-60 times are almost halved 😀
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I drove a G8 a couple months ago, I wasn't all that impressed. I'm guessing it's just the auto that killed it for me, but it lacked a certain sense of... Urgency? Even though my Mustang GT has far less power it fulfills my "I want to move NOW!" requests with immediate response.

My bet is the GXP would thrill me, but the regular G8 GT just didn't work for me (as much as I truly wanted to like it).

Viper GTS
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The G8 GT does have a sluggish auto. With all of the tunes and custom tuning shops around, that really becomes a moot point. If you ever have a chance to drive one that has had a flash done to the ECU, you should try it. The transmission shifts have more authority and are much quicker. It becomes a whole new car, not to mention that 345 RWHP+ is achievable by a good ECU flash.
 
Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: RKS
Originally posted by: PricklyPete
I love the car as well. I'd love to go buy a GXP right now. Unfortunately talking my wife into it is a bit more difficult and unfortunately my "finacially responsible" side keeps telling me I shouldn't...but I do love that car. The exterior is nice an sleek, the interior is more than manageable, and the engine is sublime. And it actually drives/rides really well. If GM doesn't rebadge these a Chevy...it will be a real shame. If it had come over as a Chevy...they would have sold REALLY well IMHO.
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We are eyeing a GXP 6-Speed right now. With discounts and 0%/72 months we would be able to swing it. The only other option I have considered it the G37 Sedan 6-Speed which has .9%/36 months. Both would be right around $40K.

Our older car is a 02 Maxima 6-Speed with about 125K miles. It runs okay but needs two O2 sensors and an exhaust leak fixed. My wife has asked if we can drive this car longer or if the deals on the new cars are too good to pass up. I imagine I could get 200K or more miles out of the Maxima, my 95 SE was donated at 225K and still running strong.
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I think the 0%/72 month is dead.
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And you'd be upside down for four years.

The car is nice, but basically to me Pontiac has gone from a probably not to a definitely not brand. I'd rather have a dodge, at least the brand isn't being killed, although pontiac is with GM, and at least the company has a higher chance of being around three years from now.
Add me to the "needs new O2 sensors for my Maxima" crowd. I'm not going to dump an otherwise solid car for a couple hundred bucks in parts though.
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I've only gone through two on my max in 125k. I think I've been lucky. First was at 37k if not sooner (that's when I got it. I believe the dealer cleared the code before selling it to me).

There was a thread on it a week or so ago but I think it will be in the low to mid $40K range.
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Who the hell is going to pay over $40k for a Taurus (I don't care if it's SHO X infiniti)? As I read elsewhere, sticking with the Taurus name was epic, epic fail.

Chevy has no need for a G8. It would compete too closely with the camaro now.
 
The G8 does not compete with the Camaro. It complements it. Somebody in the market for a coupe does not want a sedan. Somebody who wants a sedan, does not want a coupe. There's really no cross shopping in my mind on those.

GM needs whatever the cobalt replacement is, then the Malibu as it's bread & butter midsize, and then a rebadged G8 as it's flagship replacement of the Malibu.

Right now the Malibu and Impala are pointless overlaps. Just like the Maxima and Altimas are essentially pointless overlaps.
 
Originally posted by: vi edit
The G8 does not compete with the Camaro. It complements it. Somebody in the market for a coupe does not want a sedan. Somebody who wants a sedan, does not want a coupe. There's really no cross shopping in my mind on those.

GM needs whatever the cobalt replacement is, then the Malibu as it's bread & butter midsize, and then a rebadged G8 as it's flagship replacement of the Malibu.

Right now the Malibu and Impala are pointless overlaps. Just like the Maxima and Altimas are essentially pointless overlaps.
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I'm thinking you meant Impala where I bolded above.

I definitely agree with your statement about either wanting a coupe or a sedan and rarely do you have people cross shopping.

I would be REALLY happy if they brought the G8 over as an Impalla/Impalla SS and dropped the current Impala completely. Unfortunately, a few reason's I don't see that happening is:

1) The current Impala is cheap to build and they probably sell a crap load of them to rental fleets and still make a small profit on them.
2) The Impala actually gets reasonable gas mileage. Better that the G8 if my memory serves me right.
3) And this might be stretching it...but the G8 becoming an Impala does nothing for the Unions since it is built in Australia. Maybe if they retrofit a factory in NA to build them (or could build them next to the Camaro)...but that would cost money that GM doesn't want to spend right now.

Maybe if GM brought it over with two options:

1) Base Impala would come with the DI 3.6 liter used in the Camaro. De-tune it to 270HP if you can get an extra 1MPG out of it. Calibrate it similar to the Camaro and you should hope to get around 30mpg out of it.
2) Impala SS comes with same setup in current Pontiac GXP.

Also, if GM does decide to do this...please drop the hood intake...at least on the base models and only make it an option on the GXP. This is a specific request from my wife 🙂

Edit: Another option would be for GM to add a base model Impala with the 255HP engine that is getting 30MPG in the new Equinox....they would have to be able to get another MPG or two out of a car.
 
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