If something tastes sweet it is bad for you

[futurefields]

I've been doing some reading on nutrition and diets

It seems that if something tastes sweet it is bad for you

It doesn't matter if they are using sugar, high fructose corn syrup, splenda, stevia, or any thing else

Simply tasting something "sweet" is enough to kick your body into an unhealthy metabolic cycle

And that sucks man, it seems like "sweetness" in and of itself is inherantly unhealthy

 

[Brainonska511]

So fruit is bad for you?

Getting diet and nutrition advice from the internet just seems like a bad idea. Every whack-job thinks attending a few hours of Youtube University with Dean Google gives them some sort of expert insight. The best nutrition and diet advice still seems to hold today, despite the coming and going of fad diets: don't load up on junk food and eat a balanced diet.

 

[sandorski]

BS

 

[Cappuccino]

poo taste bad so poo is good 4 u?

 

[gorcorps]

Sounds like religion... if you enjoy it, it's probably a sin

 

[futurefields]

So fruit is bad for you?

Fruit in and of itself is pretty bad for you, you should only eat a small amount. Sugar is sugar, doesn't matter if it comes from fruit or corn syrup, your body processes it very similarly and over time causes insulin resistance.

I know I will get flamed for that, but do some research. Sugar is sugar. It's ALL bad. Fruit is overrated. Eat vegetables instead, and not sweet corn.

 

[gorcorps]

Fruit in and of itself is pretty bad for you, you should only eat a small amount. Sugar is sugar, doesn't matter if it comes from fruit or corn syrup, your body processes it very similarly and over time causes insulin resistance.

I know I will get flamed for that, but do some research. Sugar is sugar. It's ALL bad. Fruit is overrated. Eat vegetables instead, and not sweet corn.

As someone who's recently diabetic, I've done plenty of research and you're full of shit. There's a big difference in how your body processes carbs. Look into glycemic load

Fruits have sugars, but they're slower to digest than the same amount in... Say, soda. It's not going to hit your blood sugar the same way

 

[Brainonska511]

Fruit in and of itself is pretty bad for you, you should only eat a small amount. Sugar is sugar, doesn't matter if it comes from fruit or corn syrup, your body processes it very similarly and over time causes insulin resistance.

I know I will get flamed for that, but do some research. Sugar is sugar. It's ALL bad. Fruit is overrated. Eat vegetables instead, and not sweet corn.

And where did you come up with this sweeping conclusion? Is this what Dr. Google told you? Sugar is sugar in so far as high-fructose corn syrup soda is equivalent to cane sugar soda. Soda != fruit.

Getting sugar from fruit is perfectly fine, provided you're getting the fiber (and not just drinking a Naked Juice). The fiber helps to slow the intake of sugar and keeps you feeling full. Plus, unlike sodas, fruits also provide necessary vitamins and minerals. Hence, it is important to look at the source of the nutrients in your diet, not just blindly look at the raw numbers.

 

[Humpy]

BRB Throwing away my sweet potatoes.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

There's a training factor with your tastebuds.

If you avoid processed foods for a while cut out most of the salt from your diet, eventually things like carrots and cauliflower start to taste sweet, and commercial candy just tastes like burning and pain.

 

[Capt Caveman]

OP is an idiot

 

[futurefields]

Come on man

 

[Paladin3]

Everything in moderation & calories in vs calories out.

/thread

 

[Crono]

As someone who's recently diabetic, I've done plenty of research and you're full of shit. There's a big difference in how your body processes carbs. Look into glycemic load

Fruits have sugars, but they're slower to digest than the same amount in... Say, soda. It's not going to hit your blood sugar the same way

This. There would be a lot of fruitatarians with diabetes if that were the case. It's hard to even eat "too much" fruit, the fiber and volume tends to limit how much you can actually consume before that point.

 

[Kaido]

Fruit in and of itself is pretty bad for you, you should only eat a small amount. Sugar is sugar, doesn't matter if it comes from fruit or corn syrup, your body processes it very similarly and over time causes insulin resistance.

I know I will get flamed for that, but do some research. Sugar is sugar. It's ALL bad. Fruit is overrated. Eat vegetables instead, and not sweet corn.

The problem with that argument is that it doesn't provide the whole story. Sure, sugar is sugar to your body. But fruit also contains fiber, water, vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients. Why is that important? Because it changes how your body responds to the sugar:

http://nutritionfacts.org/2016/08/09/what-about-all-the-sugar-in-fruit/

If we have people drink a glass of water with three tablespoons of table sugar in it, which is like a can of soda, they get a big spike in blood sugar within the first hour (as you can see in my video If Fructose is Bad, What About Fruit?). Our body freaks out and releases so much insulin we actually overshoot, and by the second hour we’re relatively hypoglycemic, dropping our blood sugar below where it was when we started out. In response, our body dumps fat into our blood stream as if we’re starving, because our blood sugars just dropped so low so suddenly.

What if you eat blended berries in addition to the sugar? They have sugars of their own in them; in fact, an additional tablespoon of sugar worth; so, the blood sugar spike should be worse, right

Not only was there no additional blood sugar spike, there was no hypoglycemic dip afterwards. Blood sugar just went up and down without that overshoot and without the surge of fat into the blood.

This difference may be attributed to the semisolid consistency of the berry meals, which may have decreased the rate of stomach emptying compared with just guzzling sugar water. In addition, the soluble fiber in the berries has a gelling effect in our intestines that slows the release of sugars. To test to see if it was the fiber, researchers repeated the experiment with berry juice that had all the sugar but none of the fiber. A clear difference was observed early on in the blood sugar insulin responses. At the 15-minute mark, the blood sugar spike was significantly reduced by the berry meals, but not by the juices, but the rest of the beneficial responses were almost the same between the juice and the whole fruit, suggesting that fiber may just be part of it. It turns out there are fruit phytonutrients that inhibit the transportation of sugars through the intestinal wall into our blood stream. Phytonutrients in foods like apples and strawberries can block some of the uptake of sugars by the cells lining our intestines.

Proponents of specific diets provide heavy-handed, one-sided information. I can give you links to why diets like paleo, keto, fruitarian, raw vegan, etc. are the "best diets ever" with tons of science studies backing them. But that's not the whole story.

 

[Kaido]

This. There would be a lot of fruitatarians with diabetes if that were the case. It's hard to even eat "too much" fruit, the fiber and volume tends to limit how much you can actually consume before that point.

I followed a fruitarian diet for 6 months. Things I learned:

1. I didn't die.

2. I didn't become diabetic.

3. Fruit is frickin' expensive. Like oh my gosh. Probably the priciest diet I've ever followed.

4. Oddly enough, you never really get sick of eating fruit. I lived on fast food one time when I drove across the country. Couldn't stand it after two or three days. Fruit? Even though it's the same flavor & texture day in & day out, when you get hungry, it's still good.

5. There are a lot of ridiculously good fruits out there that most people have no idea about. A fresh, in-season mango is probably the best thing I have ever eaten. Fresh dates, like Medjools & bahris, are incredible. Satsuma oranges are just amazing. My only prior experience with some of these were things like the nasty dried date bits in trail mix.

6. Made me feel awesome 24/7. Probably the best I've ever felt in my life. I think a large part of that is due to how quickly fruit digests, so you never get that post-Thanksgiving-style slow-down after a big meal.

However, it costs a lot of money, it's socially restricting, and I love me some burgers. But still, no negative effects other than emptying my bank account at a faster rate due to the price of fresh fruit & the quantity required to feed yourself every day.

 

[gorcorps]

I followed a fruitarian diet for 6 months. Things I learned:

1. I didn't die.

2. I didn't become diabetic.

3. Fruit is frickin' expensive. Like oh my gosh. Probably the priciest diet I've ever followed.

4. Oddly enough, you never really get sick of eating fruit. I lived on fast food one time when I drove across the country. Couldn't stand it after two or three days. Fruit? Even though it's the same flavor & texture day in & day out, when you get hungry, it's still good.

5. There are a lot of ridiculously good fruits out there that most people have no idea about. A fresh, in-season mango is probably the best thing I have ever eaten. Fresh dates, like Medjools & bahris, are incredible. Satsuma oranges are just amazing. My only prior experience with some of these were things like the nasty dried date bits in trail mix.

6. Made me feel awesome 24/7. Probably the best I've ever felt in my life. I think a large part of that is due to how quickly fruit digests, so you never get that post-Thanksgiving-style slow-down after a big meal.

However, it costs a lot of money, it's socially restricting, and I love me some burgers. But still, no negative effects other than emptying my bank account at a faster rate due to the price of fresh fruit & the quantity required to feed yourself every day.

It is definitely expensive. And you have to eat it quickly too. The only thing I'm jealous of in California is the quality of their produce most of the year. We get some good stuff when the time is right, but off season fruit is disappointing. Can't complain too much though, as having so much available year round is still pretty awesome

 

[Sheep221]

This. There would be a lot of fruitatarians with diabetes if that were the case. It's hard to even eat "too much" fruit, the fiber and volume tends to limit how much you can actually consume before that point.

I have to agree with this, as much as I love fruit I think that those who advise to eat fruit/vegetables only or predominantly, are full of shit, you can't eat too much of it and you still won't feel like you ate something. You can't really eat more than 2 tomatoes or oranges(5 ounces, 150 grams) in a row but you can eat a king sized pizza(30 ounces) or have few hamburgers (17 ounces). That's why we eat soo much fast food and overeating with it because body does not call for stopping the intake.
Anyway, probably everything has sugar as predominant ingredient, even foods that are bitter, salty and so on are mostly composed from sugar, so even if you do not buy any confectionery or drink cola, you still eat lot of sugar. However it is true that other ingredients like vitamins, fiber and proteins do have positive impact on how the body processes sugar eaten with them. Unlike fast food which really is just sugar, fat and salt combined and leaves body with excess sugar that will be converted to fat because body can convert sugar to energy only by certain amount eaten after that it's all fat.
It only goes this far, not overeating and having wide food variety where combined meat, fruit, vegetable and bakery meals are way to go long term. Healthy diet does not really exist. You can only eat this much of anything.

However, it costs a lot of money, it's socially restricting, and I love me some burgers. But still, no negative effects other than emptying my bank account at a faster rate due to the price of fresh fruit & the quantity required to feed yourself every day.

What I said above applies but I like this part, do not cheap out on food. I buy only highest quality groceries too and I prepare them with care. Even when I buy some processed stuff like ham or sausages, I only buy the ones with highest meat content(96% meat), they cost triple of the basic ones but that does not bother me.
And I will never go to McDonald's ever again, it's so bad they should have banned it long time ago.

 

[Kaido]

And I will never go to McDonald's ever again, it's so bad they should have banned it long time ago.

I dunno man, I just had a chocolate Shamrock shake from McDonalds last night & it was pretty awesome.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Woman?

 

[FeuerFrei]

Doesn't take much examination of the nutrition industry to notice that benefits and detriments are routinely over-exaggerated. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I never ever would consider a fruitarian diet ... but I will agree ... good fruit is super awesome and delicious!

 

[nakedfrog]

Posting in a futurefields thread.

 

[nakedfrog]

Even when I buy some processed stuff like ham or sausages, I only buy the ones with highest meat content(96% meat), they cost triple of the basic ones but that does not bother me.

Where are you sourcing your data on the meat content of your sausages, out of curiosity?

 

[TwiceOver]

I dunno man, I just had a chocolate Shamrock shake from McDonalds last night & it was pretty awesome.

I had one the other day and they put wHip cream and a cherry on top of it. WTF is with that?