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Platypus

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Originally posted by: sdifox
How else are the paving companies going to keep making money? Long gone are the days of do it once and forget about it. It's all about planned obsolescence.


Yep, it's done on purpose.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
most of the highways around houston are rebar concrete. sometimes asphalt will be poured on top to extend the life. most of the side streets are concrete as well (with heavily trafficked streets getting a layer of asphalt).

asphalt sucks ass. it doesn't stay where you put it. it buckles under weight. it's hard to repair properly.

It is nice to get a top layer of asphalt, just because it's quieter and gives you more traction if done right.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Platypus
Originally posted by: sdifox
How else are the paving companies going to keep making money? Long gone are the days of do it once and forget about it. It's all about planned obsolescence.


Yep, it's done on purpose.

Well it be fair the roads do get the fvck pounded out of them by all the trucks, constant traffic, winters, and de-icing chemicals up here.

 
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Originally posted by: uberman
Our roads are built poorly. I don't know why they do this, but here's the scoop. American roads are built to last for a short term. Roads in Europe are designed to last twice as long. The ratio is 2 to 1. Roads here rebuilt every 10 years, in Europe, every 20 years.
Source: I believe the documentary was on the Learning Channel, but I've also heard it elsewhere.

probably due to the fact that there are a vast deal more highways in the US.
 

MegaVovaN

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: uberman
Our roads are built poorly. I don't know why they do this, but here's the scoop. American roads are built to last for a short term. Roads in Europe are designed to last twice as long. The ratio is 2 to 1. Roads here rebuilt every 10 years, in Europe, every 20 years.
Source: I believe the documentary was on the Learning Channel, but I've also heard it elsewhere.

probably due to the fact that there are a vast deal more highways in the US.

yep, them down there in YROP don't have enough cash for this many roads as we have!
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: ElFenix
most of the highways around houston are rebar concrete. sometimes asphalt will be poured on top to extend the life. most of the side streets are concrete as well (with heavily trafficked streets getting a layer of asphalt).

asphalt sucks ass. it doesn't stay where you put it. it buckles under weight. it's hard to repair properly.

It is nice to get a top layer of asphalt, just because it's quieter and gives you more traction if done right.



Yea here in NC they use a lot of concrete for highways now and some other roads. They are really bad. All the gaps for expansion just mean as you drive it moves the car up and down and of course you get the whole tump...tump...tump... sound as you drive on it. :|
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: uberman
Our roads are built poorly. I don't know why they do this, but here's the scoop. American roads are built to last for a short term. Roads in Europe are designed to last twice as long. The ratio is 2 to 1. Roads here rebuilt every 10 years, in Europe, every 20 years.
Source: I believe the documentary was on the Learning Channel, but I've also heard it elsewhere.

probably due to the fact that there are a vast deal more highways in the US.

The roads are built differently. I remember reading this somewhere. Ours are more disposable while theirs last longer.
 

sao123

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May 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: goku
If commonly used roads were reinforced with rebar, would we not have to resurface the roads as much? Would it save us money in the long run to just reinforce commonly traversed roads with rebar due to the lessening of resurfacing?

All concrete roads are rebar reinforced.
Rebar reinforcement only strengthens the base to prevent raising or sinking.
It does not solve the surface freeze thaw cycle which cracks the surface and eventually causes potholes... this is where asphault resurfacing comes in.
 

MegaVovaN

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May 20, 2005
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Originally posted by: SagaLore
We need to start using some kind of ceramic / polymer mixture.

which is 9999999X more expensive than rebar and 999999999999999999X more expensive than laying asphalt every 5 months
 

Rubycon

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Roads are such a waste of space. To add capacity they just widen the road. Now if they could figure out a way to stack roads on top of another it may be possible to reduce jams. Cars will probably fly before then. :)
 

MegaVovaN

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Roads are such a waste of space. To add capacity they just widen the road. Now if they could figure out a way to stack roads on top of another it may be possible to reduce jams. Cars will probably fly before then. :)

And then you will have to watch out for 80 yr old who would screw up and manage to run over 10 ppl on his air mobile...
http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/4276096.html