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If kids who do really BAD things can get tried as an adult, why can't kids who do really GOOD things get adult rights?

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I think it's hypocrtical that under certain circumstances kids are treated as adult,s but only when they've done something horribly, horribly wrong. You never hear about the gov't trying to give a 15 year old his driver's license early after he won a race at the local 1/3 mile oval, nor do you hear about particularly gifted political science students getting thier voting priveldges at 17. Why not? Apparently, kids aren't responsible enough to handle these things. Which is also why we have juvenile detention facilities. I think it's unfair to give only the absolutely worst kids adult treatment. It should be available for eveyone, or noone, IMO.

btw - I'm over 21, so this really doesn't apply to me, I just find it unfair.
 
why can't kids who do really GOOD things get adult rights?
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That's how I was raised, and I've never regretted it being that way 🙂 Inside of my household, I was regarded as such. Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.
 
i completely agree.

my parents let me drink alcohol because i've shown that i don't go crazy and get drunk or anything, that i just drink it for the taste.
 
I think it's hypocrtical that under certain circumstances kids are treated as adult,s but only when they've done something horribly, horribly wrong. You never hear about the gov't trying to give a 15 year old his driver's license early after he won a race at the local 1/3 mile oval, nor do you hear about particularly gifted political science students getting thier voting priveldges at 17. Why not?
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We don't try juveniles as adults because we believe they 'deserve' to be treated as adults. They are tried as adults because their crimes are of such a violent and serious nature that releasing back into society at 18 would be wanton disregard for the safety of the public.

You can't keep a minor in the juvenile system until they're 35, and you can't try them again for the same crime when they become an adult.

Its like saying "Jee I was really really good today, what do I get?" Nothing, you get nothing, either when you are an adult or a minor. You should get no "reward" for doing only what is expected of you, or doing what is expected of you should be its own reward.
 
Oh, and there is a "reward" for being a good kid...you don't get put in jail and you're allowed to assume all the responsibilities of an adult when you become one. I would say that's a pretty fair incentive.
 
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Oh, and there is a "reward" for being a good kid...you don't get put in jail and you're allowed to assume all the responsibilities of an adult when you become one. I would say that's a pretty fair incentive.
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i think he was referring to going above simply being a "good kid". i don't see why we shouldn't... this isn't a *reward* per se, this is simply recognizing that they are responsible enough to get these rights. and for youth, it is often hard to see benefits of studying hard, and doing extracurricular activities. this will help young people see that acting responsibily will earn other people's trust and ultimately help them.
 
So let me get this straight. If I was 17.99 years old, I then commit a mass murdering of my entire town, you are arguing that I should be treated as a juvenile and be let out the next day when I turn 18?

You are looking at the juvenile court system backwards - thinking that they are charged as adults if they are bad. Instead look at it like this: everyone of all ages will be treated as an adult in the adult court. If you happen to be quite young, and you are relatively "good", then they give you a break and will try you in the juvenile system. Basically a person who is young and didn't do a horrendous crime is given a benefit of juvenile court. So it is the young getting an extra benefit when they are "good".

("good" being in comparison to a murderer).
 
i think he was referring to going above simply being a "good kid". i don't see why we shouldn't... this isn't a *reward* per se, this is simply recognizing that they are responsible enough to get these rights. and for youth, it is often hard to see benefits of studying hard, and doing extracurricular activities. this will help young people see that acting responsibily will earn other people's trust and ultimately help them.
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Kids get recognition in their individual lives for whatever accomplishments they might achieve, at home, at school, etc. It isn't the government's responsibility to ensure that kids are getting their daily dose of self-esteem, nor should it be.

It is, however, the government's responsibility to ensure those who commit crimes against others are prosecuted.

And the government DOES already recognize when kids become responsible enough to get these rights, its called "the age of consent". Children are not responsible enough to have the rights of adults, this is why children do not exit the womb at 97 years of age.
 
Not true... In order to be fair, kids should be treated like an adult for everything! Good or bad....

However, that just doesn't work, so the society draws a line between childhood and adulthood......

Think about it.... not all kids who commit crimes are treated as adults... in fact, because they're kids they're giving the special juvi treatment.

Yeah, Doogie might have good grades and can be a doctor at 10, should he have the right to call a prostitute as a reward? I dunno....
 
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