If it's that important to you, wouldn't you rather fix it now?

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Lifer
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I haven't posted any tech rants in a while, but this is driving me nuts.

I support corporate level laser printers. Many of our customers purchase next day on-site contracts for their printers. For the most part the printers are very reliable - Very rarely are things actually broken on the printers (save for customer abuse).

One of the most common calls is paper jams from the lower trays, where the printer is refusing to pull paper. 95% of the time it's simply due to dirty rollers. Paper dust accumulates on the rollers, they start to slip, & you get strange noises + paper jam errors. At the 2-3 year point this is a pretty common problem.

When this is the case, it's very easy to solve. 5 minutes on the phone with somebody by the printer & we can have them up & running. Two rollers to wash with cold water & switch (to make sure they wear evenly), and a set of four to wipe off with a damp cloth. Put everything back together & it usually works perfectly for another 100K pages. I can walk even the most technically inept people through it, they don't have to know anything about the printer to fix it. "See that gray roller with the blue handle? Squeeze the handle & slide the roller to the left." It's that easy.

So what's the problem? People call up because they can't print.

Them: I can't print, it says (error message).
Me: Well, 95% of the time that's caused by dirty rollers, are you at the printer right now?
Them: No.
Me: Do you have anyone at the printer that we could talk to?
Them: No.
Me: Well, I'm almost certain I know exactly what the problem is, & if you have a number I can call you at, even a personal cell phone, we can probably get you back up and running in under 5 minutes.
Them: I can't do that. Why can't you just send someone out?
Me: We don't send techs out on user-replaceable parts, if cleaning the rollers doesn't fix it & there is no physical damage found I can send you rollers, but a tech visit is unnecessary for such a simple issue.
Them: We need this printer, can't you just send someone out?
Me (on mute): Arrggh...

If the printer is that important to you, spend the 5 minutes with me & we'll fix it! Even if it turns out to be something more severe I have to do SOME troubleshooting with you to know what parts to send with the tech. If I can't do a parts predict for it I'll be sending a tech with no parts, which will delay you even further since he'll have to come back another day with parts.

Your call, 5 minutes or 24+ hours. And if we send a tech out for something that turns out to be a user-replaceable part, we'll charge you for the visit. We don't have any contracts that don't require some form of troubleshooting.

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m0ti

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Yeah, but the 5 minutes is on THEIR time.

Plus, they've got a great excuse for not being able to do work: "The printer isn't working. The tech'll be around some time tomorrow (and thinks to self: I'm off to grab a coffee!)"

 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: m0ti
Yeah, but the 5 minutes is on THEIR time.

Plus, they've got a great excuse for not being able to do work: "The printer isn't working. The tech'll be around some time tomorrow (and thinks to self: I'm off to grab a coffee!)"

Exactly what she was probably thinking... But, on the other hand, maybe for some reason there really was no way for her to get a phone and get by the printer...
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: m0ti
Yeah, but the 5 minutes is on THEIR time.

Plus, they've got a great excuse for not being able to do work: "The printer isn't working. The tech'll be around some time tomorrow (and thinks to self: I'm off to grab a coffee!)"

if their time is so important that they can't be bothered to fix a printer, one would think that they would be able to get a lackey to do it for them...
 

Maverick

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I always mess with the laser printers at work till they get working...people around my area will just try to print to another printer...guess I just like to spend time tinkering with things.

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Demon-Xanth

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Happens all the time around here. People are too busy to go up front and get some paper (5 minute trip) but not too busy to bitch and whine that there is no paper (there isn't someone who's duty it is to get paper) and then spend 10 minutes trying to figure out another way to get paper.... 5 times a day until someone gets paper.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: Shiva112
I always mess with the laser printers at work till they get working...people around my area will just try to print to another printer...guess I just like to spend time tinkering with things.

"PC load letter, wtf does that mean?" - Office Space


Haha! I remember a post of someone here that got that error message on his HP :)

Viper: Yes, people are stupid. It sucks that you can not smack them. I will become rich when I design a device that allows you to smack someone over the phone.
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: m0ti
Yeah, but the 5 minutes is on THEIR time.

Plus, they've got a great excuse for not being able to do work: "The printer isn't working. The tech'll be around some time tomorrow (and thinks to self: I'm off to grab a coffee!)"

Exactly what she was probably thinking... But, on the other hand, maybe for some reason there really was no way for her to get a phone and get by the printer...

I'm willing to call people back on another number, a cell phone, heck, I'll even wait if they have to walk back & forth. I'll even fax them hand-written instructions written custom for them if it will help them out. It's just not that hard to do, & they can even bring the tray back to the phone with them to make things easier.

I suspect m0ti is right, though, nobody wants to take personal responsibility for it & get it done. Much easier to wait for someone to come out & fix it for them.

And then they get the $900+ flat rate bill.

:D

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ATLien247

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Why would you expect them to do it themselves, when they have already purchased the "next day, on-site" service contract? I realize that it's easy, in theory, to have the (l)user clean the rollers themselves. However, you give people too much credit. There's a good chance that they'll only make things worse....
 

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Originally posted by: ATLien247
Why would you expect them to do it themselves, when they have already purchased the "next day, on-site" service contract? I realize that it's easy, in theory, to have the (l)user clean the rollers themselves. However, you give people too much credit. There's a good chance that they'll only make things worse....

1) The contract requires troubleshooting.
2) There is nothing for them to screw up, the parts are user-installable. Even easier than toner cartridges.

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ATLien247

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS

1) The contract requires troubleshooting.
2) There is nothing for them to screw up, the parts are user-installable. Even easier than toner cartridges.

Viper GTS

Let me rephrase my question:

Why would you complain about something that brings in more revenue for your company?

;)
 

CraigRT

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That's really dumb.. that would really piss me off too.. at that point i just get straight up with people and tell them in a more firm tone. it's too annoying to just continue to be nice..
 

wyvrn

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Because he is the one in position to fix it, at lower cost to his customer. It's favorable when tech support agent cares about his clients, as Viper appears to. However its another thing when the client is too stupid to take advantage of such a situation.

I say send out a tech on-site and charge the losers :D
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: ATLien247
Originally posted by: Viper GTS

1) The contract requires troubleshooting.
2) There is nothing for them to screw up, the parts are user-installable. Even easier than toner cartridges.

Viper GTS

Let me rephrase my question:

Why would you complain about something that brings in more revenue for your company?

;)

Because the company doesn't give him a bonus-per-call. To him, it's just another regular paycheck with another dumbass customer on the phone.

nik
 

ATLien247

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Because the company doesn't give him a bonus-per-call. To him, it's just another regular paycheck with another dumbass customer on the phone.

nik

Oh, so personal incentive is what he's after? Not the fact that while the company is making money off these poor fools, that he still has a job?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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I do support and I couldn't care less how much each customer is paying or if they're even paying anything at all. As long as I'm doing my job to the fullest and getting my paycheck, I couldn't care less.

Of course, I feel miserable cuz I'm sick right now, but that's how I usually feel. I'm not here to hold someone's hand or feel sorry for them - I'm here to provide answers for questions and walk someone through fixing what's broken if it's provided by the company.

nik