If I were to upgrade my monitor/display. Recommendations please!

[Emultra]

You're right sorry, I was not familiar with the concept of true 120hz vs frame interpolation. I still don't think it makes enough of a difference to want this feature over a similarly priced IPS panel without it though.

Which is what everyone that doesn't use 120hz says. It's a revolution in look and feel that overpowers any old color/viewing angle concerns.

 

[Griffinhart]

Just trust that 120hz monitors are far from 'irrelevant' for non-3D gaming and you won't want to go back once you pick one up. Check some of the other threads on AT about them, or this one on Hardforum:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1496801

I'll chime in here. I have a Dell 24" IPS panel and the Acer GD235hz 120hz LCD. Hands down, the Dell panel is better at general gaming, General Windows usage, and Massively better when photo editing(color reproduction) or watching movies(Viewing Angles). Overall image quality is better on the IPS panel as well. The 120hz is an adequate display, but just that. IMHO, coming from a user that runs both on the same machine, If you want 3D, 120hz, if you simply want a better display without 3D, IPS.

 

[QuantumPion]

Regular monitor -> 120hz monitor :: 5400 rpm hard drive -> SLC SSD

Yes, it makes that much of a difference.

Notice how no one who owns an SSD says "yah it's pretty fast but it was too expensive and not really worth it."

Likewise, no one who owns a 120hz monitor says "yah it's pretty smooth but it's not that big of a deal".

The downside of 120hz TN monitors though is that their 2d quality is pretty poor (fuzzy text, backlight bleeding, 6-bit colors, etc). But if your primary use is games then 120hz is highly recommended.

 

[d3fu5i0n]

Regular monitor -> 120hz monitor :: 5400 rpm hard drive -> SLC SSD

Yes, it makes that much of a difference.

Notice how no one who owns an SSD says "yah it's pretty fast but it was too expensive and not really worth it."

Likewise, no one who owns a 120hz monitor says "yah it's pretty smooth but it's not that big of a deal".

The downside of 120hz TN monitors though is that their 2d quality is pretty poor (fuzzy text, backlight bleeding, 6-bit colors, etc). But if your primary use is games then 120hz is highly recommended.

I very much agree, but lol, is anyone actually going to comment on my IPS choice?
Can't wait for it

 

[Griffinhart]

Regular monitor -> 120hz monitor :: 5400 rpm hard drive -> SLC SSD

Yes, it makes that much of a difference.

Notice how no one who owns an SSD says "yah it's pretty fast but it was too expensive and not really worth it."

Likewise, no one who owns a 120hz monitor says "yah it's pretty smooth but it's not that big of a deal".

The downside of 120hz TN monitors though is that their 2d quality is pretty poor (fuzzy text, backlight bleeding, 6-bit colors, etc). But if your primary use is games then 120hz is highly recommended.

The funny thing is, I've never met anyone that's gone to a 120hz LCD from an IPS panel and say it was better. As I said, I have both on the Same PC. Games are equally as smooth on my IPS panel as my 120hz, or at least, I can't see a difference at all.

I have to ask if the people pushing the 120hz displays over IPS have actually had an IPS panel? A 120hz LCD over a basic TN panel is pretty obvious, but over IPS.... Not even close.

 

[Griffinhart]

I very much agree, but lol, is anyone actually going to comment on my IPS choice?
Can't wait for it

Thumbs up here. You will not regret going with an IPS panel. I got mine when they were $1200 for a 24" IPS and never regretted a dime of it, while I honestly have a little bit of buyers remorse on the 120hz.

 

[Emultra]

I have to ask if the people pushing the 120hz displays over IPS have actually had an IPS panel? A 120hz LCD over a basic TN panel is pretty obvious, but over IPS.... Not even close.

The speed difference is even greater. But I don't necessarily doubt you when you claim to not notice any difference. I know of someone who was OK with using 60hz CRT's for hours. Different "perception speeds" etc.

 

[Griffinhart]

Well, with CRT and hz, you are talking an entirely different technology and experience. 60hz or less with CRT can actually give a user a headache. LCD's and CRT's do not refresh the screen with the same method at all. Plus, a CRT at 60hz gave zero FPS more than a CRT at 120hz and gave no impoved smoothness or performance. The lower the hz the more the flicker of the display. The phenomenon is easily seen when viewing a CRT through a video camera.

Where you MIGHT see a difference is with very fast moving action (as in games) vs OLDER LCD's where grey to grey "refresh rates" were over 20ms. But today, even the cheapest LCD's have sub 5ms refresh rates.

 

[d3fu5i0n]

Thumbs up here. You will not regret going with an IPS panel. I got mine when they were $1200 for a 24" IPS and never regretted a dime of it, while I honestly have a little bit of buyers remorse on the 120hz.

Hehe, thanks.
At least it's a nice LED IPS as well.

Can you find some info or help me with colour settings for the display, please?
(I won't have the display for a while, [a present], but it'll be good to know the settings ready for when I set it up).
Or... I could just create another thread.

 

[QuantumPion]

The funny thing is, I've never met anyone that's gone to a 120hz LCD from an IPS panel and say it was better.

I just did. For me, 120hz is a better improvement of experience than an IPS monitor.

As I said, I have both on the Same PC. Games are equally as smooth on my IPS panel as my 120hz, or at least, I can't see a difference at all.

You must have forgotten to actually set your desktop resolution to 120hz then. The difference is quite stark and noticeable. If you are unable to tell the difference between 60hz and 120z, there is no way you would be able to tell the more subtle difference between a TN and IPS monitor and should probably just save your money and buy the cheapest $100 bargain bin monitor around.

I have to ask if the people pushing the 120hz displays over IPS have actually had an IPS panel? A 120hz LCD over a basic TN panel is pretty obvious, but over IPS.... Not even close.

My previous monitor was the 26" DS IPS monitor (same S-IPS panel as the Planar PX2611W). As I said, there is definately a tradeoff in going with 120hz TN over IPS. However my opinion is that, if gaming is your primary purpose, 120hz is a bigger benefit than IPS.

 

[Dice144]

I just picked up that LG model you linked earlier in this thread. Sitting side by side next to my older Asus TN 24" colors are night and day difference. I order 2 Vesa mounts this week. Now to go to local store and buy a second LG IPS because the old Asus TN panel looks so bad next to the IPS screen...

 

[Griffinhart]

You must have forgotten to actually set your desktop resolution to 120hz then. The difference is quite stark and noticeable.

nope, it's set to 120hz as it needs to be to be able to run 3D Games. There is nothing stark about it.

If you are unable to tell the difference between 60hz and 120z, there is no way you would be able to tell the more subtle difference between a TN and IPS monitor and should probably just save your money and buy the cheapest $100 bargain bin monitor around.

Sublte difference between a TN and IPS Panel? Really? Really? Sorry, you lost all credibility with me with that notion. There is nothing subtle about comparing IPS to a TN screen.

 

[d3fu5i0n]

Sublte difference between a TN and IPS Panel? Really? Really? Sorry, you lost all credibility with me with that notion. There is nothing subtle about comparing IPS to a TN screen.

Yes, I'll agree.
I was allowed to have my IPS236VP early, and I have to say... WOW, without any calibration it's already so much better. A wider contrast ratio, far more natural colours [great for scenery], and the viewing angles... just... WOW!!!

I'm so happy with it. I got my Vertex 2 240GB set up with it at the same time. I've just re-installed Windows.

 

[nickb64]

Can't figure out how to quote using my phone, but I recall on one of the podcast I listen to, the host was talking about how displayport lets you get around the display driver or something in the monitor allowing more instant resolution changes. Not something most people do often, but might be useful in certain cases.

 

[QuantumPion]

nope, it's set to 120hz as it needs to be to be able to run 3D Games. There is nothing stark about it.



Sublte difference between a TN and IPS Panel? Really? Really? Sorry, you lost all credibility with me with that notion. There is nothing subtle about comparing IPS to a TN screen.

Well you lost all credibility with me by mischaracterizing what I said. I said the difference was more subtle than the 120hz monitor to exaggerate how big a difference the 120hz makes.

Actually I never gave you any credibility to begin with when you said you couldn't see any difference at 120hz. :\