If I buy a Motorola Q without a data plan...

SLCentral

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Will Verizon activate it? I can get it from somewhere other then Verizon, and I'm already in a contract, so will Verizon just let me add it to my number, or will they make me add the damn data plan?
 

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They will force you to add some form of data plan-- even if it's the "pay as you go" data plan.

But trust me-- if you go for the "pay as you go" data plan make sure you disable every data feature on your phone as it can get real expensive really fast (1.5 cents per kiloybyte).
 

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Originally posted by: QED
They will force you to add some form of data plan-- even if it's the "pay as you go" data plan.

But trust me-- if you go for the "pay as you go" data plan make sure you disable every data feature on your phone as it can get real expensive really fast (1.5 cents per kiloybyte).

What kind of data features are there, that I would use without knowing I'm using data?
 

QED

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Originally posted by: SLCentral
Originally posted by: QED
They will force you to add some form of data plan-- even if it's the "pay as you go" data plan.

But trust me-- if you go for the "pay as you go" data plan make sure you disable every data feature on your phone as it can get real expensive really fast (1.5 cents per kiloybyte).

What kind of data features are there, that I would use without knowing I'm using data?


Sending or receiving any pictures or text messages are data calls.

Using your cellphone as dial-up modem is a data call.

Using any application that connects to get data (weather, map, news, date/time, etc) is a data call.

If you accidently open up PIE (Pocket Internet Explorer) and it loads the MSN.com home page (around 150KB) before you realize it and close it, that's a data call that just cost you $2.25.

Sending, recieving, or viewing your mail is a data call.



 

SLCentral

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Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: SLCentral
Originally posted by: QED
They will force you to add some form of data plan-- even if it's the "pay as you go" data plan.

But trust me-- if you go for the "pay as you go" data plan make sure you disable every data feature on your phone as it can get real expensive really fast (1.5 cents per kiloybyte).

What kind of data features are there, that I would use without knowing I'm using data?


Sending or receiving any pictures or text messages are data calls.

Using your cellphone as dial-up modem is a data call.

Using any application that connects to get data (weather, map, news, date/time, etc) is a data call.

If you accidently open up PIE (Pocket Internet Explorer) and it loads the MSN.com home page (around 150KB) before you realize it and close it, that's a data call that just cost you $2.25.

Sending, recieving, or viewing your mail is a data call.

Wait, WTF? Even if I have the text/pix plan from Verizon (for $5 a month), texting and sending pics will charge me for additional data usage? The rest I can live with; that I cant.
 

QED

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Originally posted by: SLCentral
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: SLCentral
Originally posted by: QED
They will force you to add some form of data plan-- even if it's the "pay as you go" data plan.

But trust me-- if you go for the "pay as you go" data plan make sure you disable every data feature on your phone as it can get real expensive really fast (1.5 cents per kiloybyte).

What kind of data features are there, that I would use without knowing I'm using data?


Sending or receiving any pictures or text messages are data calls.

Using your cellphone as dial-up modem is a data call.

Using any application that connects to get data (weather, map, news, date/time, etc) is a data call.

If you accidently open up PIE (Pocket Internet Explorer) and it loads the MSN.com home page (around 150KB) before you realize it and close it, that's a data call that just cost you $2.25.

Sending, recieving, or viewing your mail is a data call.

Wait, WTF? Even if I have the text/pix plan from Verizon (for $5 a month), texting and sending pics will charge me for additional data usage? The rest I can live with; that I cant.


That is correct.

Verizon has made it abundantly clear that they think those with mobile computing devices should pay a premium for data services for them.

I used to be able to use my Motorola e815 as a dial-up modem with no problems and it used only airtime. If I use my XV6700 in the same way, I'm hit with a 1.5 cents per kilobyte data usage fee.

You can sent all the pix and text messages you like on an e815 with the text/pix plan, but if you have a PDA Verizon expects you to pay data usage charges now as well.

On the e815 for $5 you can get the Mobile Web plan, allowing you to surf the web, check stocks, etc. If you have a PDA, again, Verizon expects you to pay data usage charges on top of that.
 

SLCentral

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Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: SLCentral
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: SLCentral
Originally posted by: QED
They will force you to add some form of data plan-- even if it's the "pay as you go" data plan.

But trust me-- if you go for the "pay as you go" data plan make sure you disable every data feature on your phone as it can get real expensive really fast (1.5 cents per kiloybyte).

What kind of data features are there, that I would use without knowing I'm using data?


Sending or receiving any pictures or text messages are data calls.

Using your cellphone as dial-up modem is a data call.

Using any application that connects to get data (weather, map, news, date/time, etc) is a data call.

If you accidently open up PIE (Pocket Internet Explorer) and it loads the MSN.com home page (around 150KB) before you realize it and close it, that's a data call that just cost you $2.25.

Sending, recieving, or viewing your mail is a data call.

Wait, WTF? Even if I have the text/pix plan from Verizon (for $5 a month), texting and sending pics will charge me for additional data usage? The rest I can live with; that I cant.


That is correct.

Verizon has made it abundantly clear that they think those with mobile computing devices should pay a premium for data services for them.

I used to be able to use my Motorola e815 as a dial-up modem with no problems and it used only airtime. If I use my XV6700 in the same way, I'm hit with a 1.5 cents per kilobyte data usage fee.

You can sent all the pix and text messages you like on an e815 with the text/pix plan, but if you have a PDA Verizon expects you to pay data usage charges now as well.

On the e815 for $5 you can get the Mobile Web plan, allowing you to surf the web, check stocks, etc. If you have a PDA, again, Verizon expects you to pay data usage charges on top of that.

Jesus christ. How much does the average text message cost when using the Q to send/receive? Fvck Verizon.
 

shortylickens

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AT&T had a similar thing when I got my Motorola phone.
I was automatically set up for the pay per use data plan.

It doesnt stop you at all and makes you pay through the nose when you accidentally use it.
You had to call up after recieving the phone and specifically deactivate the data plan. I wonder if Verizon lets you do the same thing.
 

SLCentral

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
AT&T had a similar thing when I got my Motorola phone.
I was automatically set up for the pay per use data plan.

It doesnt stop you at all and makes you pay through the nose when you accidentally use it.
You had to call up after recieving the phone and specifically deactivate the data plan. I wonder if Verizon lets you do the same thing.

They do let you block mobile web when you sign up, which would prevent accidently using the web, but still doesn't help me with this damn text messaging policy. I hate Verizon SO much.
 

SLCentral

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Originally posted by: dartworth
Can't you just buy the Q from a third party and change your ESN online?

I didn't know you could change your ESN online, but yeah, that pretty much answered my question in the OP.