If Hoffa had lived

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shortylickens

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he would have just turned a hundred.




Realistically he lived a long time as badass as he was.
 

unokitty

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In the early '70s, I worked as a Teamster on a truck dock on Chicago's west side.

Jimmy Hoffa had a lot of creditability with the Teamsters that I worked with. We all hoped that he could take the Union over again and get rid of that crook Frankie Fitzsimmons.

Its true that Hoffa had made alliances with the mob while he was in the Union. But the generally feeling was that he did it as a tactical imperative. After all, who else was going to work with the Teamsters?

By the early 70s, the mob had operational control of the Teamsters pension fund... And everybody wanted Hoffa to take it away from them...

Didn't work out that way. But whatever happened to Jimmy, he never lost his integrity.

A man can do a lot worse...

Uno
 

shortylickens

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In the early '70s, I worked as a Teamster on a truck dock on Chicago's west side.

Jimmy Hoffa had a lot of creditability with the Teamsters that I worked with. We all hoped that he could take the Union over again and get rid of that crook Frankie Fitzsimmons.

Its true that Hoffa had made alliances with the mob while he was in the Union. But the generally feeling was that he did it as a tactical imperative. After all, who else was going to work with the Teamsters?

By the early 70s, the mob had operational control of the Teamsters pension fund... And everybody wanted Hoffa to take it away from them...

Didn't work out that way. But whatever happened to Jimmy, he never lost his integrity.

A man can do a lot worse...

Uno

According to the movie he put Fitz in charge.
 

Colt45

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Not sure why they keep digging stuff up. he's in thailand with elvis and tupac
 

phucheneh

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I worked a job that had the teamsters union.


...in other news, the teamsters can suck my motherfucking cock. They actually lowered my pay.
 

unokitty

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According to the movie he put Fitz in charge.


When I carried my Teamsters card, Hoffa was forbidden, under the terms of his pardon, to be involved with the Union. Though, he was working to get that changed.

The movie is correct. Hoffa placed Fitzsimmons in charge of the Union when he could no longer run it. The way it was explained to me is that everyone thought that Fitzsimmmons would just hold the place for him until Hoffa could make it back.

Then, Fitzsimmons turned on Hoffa and became the Mob's bitch... And the Teamster's pension fund became the Mob's play toy.

Uno
 

phucheneh

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Unions, the modern legal mob.

Someone has to make sure the people servicing your mansion aren't being forced to live in cardboard boxes.

The biggest problem (source of random late night angry comment made above) is that some of them get too big, and encompass too many jobs, which tends to marginalize the more highly skilled workers.

I was working for a rental car company getting paid jack shit to fix cars. On the flipside, the people who vacuumed them out and gassed them up probably got paid okay for such a simple job.

The other gripe is the 'seniority' aspect. Pay people based on how well they do their job, not how many years they've been stuck in the same position.

Unions are like a lot of things in this country: totally needed, totally there, but also totally fucking broken.
 
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