If FX is designed for the future

[Vesku]

AMD definitely has a lot of work to do for 2012. They are predicting 10% IPC gains when they need 20-25% to offset Intel's 2012 roadmap, they needed that 10% now. They also struck off the 5 module version from their road map, which indicates they have low expectations of GF 32nm improvement pace in regards to thermal characteristics.

If only AMD could use Intel's fabs, hehe.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Intel will never deliver a "death blow" to AMD. Too many regulatory problems if that happens. We'll instead see them jack up next-gen prices or delay something or... well, a lot of things, none of which are good for us consumers.

That picture your stairing at . Has changed and you didn't notice, Windows 8 and ARM changes much . Intel may very well go for the kill in 2013

 

[CHADBOGA]

So says a guy who said BD would have a good IPC improvement . I look for 20% improvement in IB IPC thats about 30% better than BD brought to the table. Whats the smallest improvement intel has made on both ticks and tocks since 06. I believe 10% is the smallest increase. Intel said they did work on the IB cpu portion . and thats what they have told us

IB will have stuff all IPC improvements over SB, it will be 2 to 3%.

 

[Vesku]

That will be 12-18% more IPC improvement than FX brought for AMD. :O

 

[nyker96]

I just saw a roadmap for amd, seems they are very ambitious on BD revisions, planning new rev of BD core every year +15% more performance per rev.

BD 2011, Piledriver 2012, Steamroller 2013, Excavator 2014 already on the roadmap. Also AMD is obviously building the next skyscraper w/ these new machines and branching out to construction business in case cpu business fouls.

 

[RobDickinson]

'designed for the future' is an euphemism for sucking today?

 

[EightySix Four]

Actually, my understanding is they are looking for 10-15% increase in IPC year over year, they didn't mention clocks which I would imagine they're hoping to ramp rapidly as the manufacturing provessing becomes more mature.

10-15% increase in IPC, 4.2-4.5ghz base clocks... might not be too bad.

 

[Nemesis 1]

IB will have stuff all IPC improvements over SB, it will be 2 to 3%.

Well I like to make bets. I bet IBV has positively 15% IPC improvenments . Games . All games count as a whole or average . Its one way the amd guys bring down the IPC differance . Just all games averaged. Than apps .

 

[RobDickinson]

Ivybrige is much more than just a die shrink there are plenty of changes that will improve the ipc a little and reduce power consumption. Should clock higher too in the same thermal output.

Sad thing is Intel dont even have to rush IVB out, they can take as long as they want, AMD have no decent competition .

 

[grkM3]

The processor has been out one day officially and you are making that statement. The arch has so much potential you may see Intel doing another copy/paste from AMD in the future. The point is, you don't know what is going on. You aren't an authority and your post has fanboi written all over it.

Sorry to hurt your feelings but its the truth,BD is a huge FAIL.The ceo was fired and the next big guy in line was let go.What the heck does that tell you?

So we have a chip that has 1.1 billion more transistors than a sandy bridge,has 4 more cores and consumes more power and cant beat a 4 core 2500k.

Intel has the bottleneck since it needs half the trasnsistors to double its performance

Wake up and go buy a 2600k already!!!

os net burst also had so much potential and look how fast intel scrapped that.

 

[grkM3]

Ivybrige is much more than just a die shrink there are plenty of changes that will improve the ipc a little and reduce power consumption. Should clock higher too in the same thermal output.

Sad thing is Intel dont even have to rush IVB out, they can take as long as they want, AMD have no decent competition .

I think intel got a bd to play with because there 2700k with just 100mhz bump is enought to beat the top line bd in almost every bench.

looks like we wont see anything crazzy coming from intel for a while now.

 

[386DX]

AMD definitely has a lot of work to do for 2012. They are predicting 10% IPC gains when they need 20-25% to offset Intel's 2012 roadmap, they needed that 10% now. They also struck off the 5 module version from their road map, which indicates they have low expectations of GF 32nm improvement pace in regards to thermal characteristics.

If only AMD could use Intel's fabs, hehe.

The slides never explicitly say 10-15% IPC gains. It actually says IPC & Power Improvement, then on the graph the Y-axis is "Performance Per Watt" then "10-15% increase in performance each year". That's a very low increase if you think about it, they can achieve that by just bumping up the clock speed with no architecture change at all. Of course that won't satisfy the increase in IPC & Power Improvement... for that they can just re-release the Phenom II in 2012 LMAO! Instant increase in IPC and Performance per Watt.