If DirectX12 can bump low end performance like Mantle, would that change your budget?

If DirectX12 works as well as Mantle, my pc budget will be

  • Spend 10% more on the GPU

  • Spend 20% more on the GPU

  • Spend 30% more on the GPU

  • Spend 40% or more on the GPU

  • Spend 0% more on the GPU and save money with cheaper CPU!

  • This does not impact my cpu/gpu budget allocation


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positivedoppler

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Thank you for participating in the poll :)
This is not about Nvida vs AMD or AMD vs Intel. The brand of cpu or gpu is irrelevant to this poll.

So if DirectX12 ends up giving low end cpu's a boost in gaming much like Mantle, would this change your budget allocation when purchasing a new pc or laptop?
 
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bystander36

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Obviously, when all the dev's jump on board, and I no longer have to worry about CPU bottlenecks, I'd allocate more towards the GPU, but that is a long way out. Even then, when GPU's are no longer bottlencked by the CPU, you can expect dev's to find a way to utilize that extra power left on the table. Perhaps with more realistic physics.
 

toyota

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no considering even a 4770k cant stay above 60 fps the whole time in every game right now. so even with DX12 there will never be a such thing as too much cpu power as future games are likely to need even more cpu power. the goal with high end gpus is to get the most out of them so I would still get a really good cpu. cpu progress has been a joke for years now.
 
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positivedoppler

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Obviously, when all the dev's jump on board, and I no longer have to worry about CPU bottlenecks, I'd allocate more towards the GPU, but that is a long way out. Even then, when GPU's are no longer bottlencked by the CPU, you can expect dev's to find a way to utilize that extra power left on the table. Perhaps with more realistic physics.

bystander36,
Thank you for the input. I agree, people should obviously take into account how developers might utilize the cpu in the future when making a decision on how to spread their cpu/gpu budget.
 

AnandThenMan

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Interesting poll. Does not impact my component choices much if at all because I use my systems for far more than gaming. Caveat, that would be for my main system, for secondary rigs or systems I build for friends/family then yes absolutely it will change how I build.
 

positivedoppler

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Interesting poll. Does not impact my component choices much if at all because I use my systems for far more than gaming. Caveat, that would be for my main system, for secondary rigs or systems I build for friends/family then yes absolutely it will change how I build.

Interesting point! I have to admit your response caught me off guard as I'm not sure how to make the poll properly represent your response.
 

wand3r3r

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Interesting poll. Does not impact my component choices much if at all because I use my systems for far more than gaming. Caveat, that would be for my main system, for secondary rigs or systems I build for friends/family then yes absolutely it will change how I build.
Same here. :thumbsup:
 

bystander36

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Interesting point! I have to admit your response caught me off guard as I'm not sure how to make the poll properly represent your response.

The specific amounts doesn't need to be there, as we have no idea how to predict how much we may adjust costs, as we have no performance numbers to look at until that time comes. You could also just have placed a caveat that this relates to your gaming PC.

I could say that I am more inclined to adjust my budget to swing more towards the GPU, but until such time comes, and I know how much I can skimp the CPU, if at all, I have no idea if I'll make a 10%-50% adjustment.
 

96Firebird

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Interesting poll. Does not impact my component choices much if at all because I use my systems for far more than gaming.

This. I didn't see an option in the polling for this, so I didn't vote.

Edit - I guess the last option covers it...
 

SlowSpyder

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These days I build and upgrade more for the hobbyist enjoyment of it all then for absolute bang for the buck. So it wouldn't affect me one way or another I guess.
 

Zanovar

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Fastest card you can afford work your way down(good luck)
 
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The simple fact is, there are 2 games out that support mantle and none that support DX12.
So neither would affect my decision on a cpu or overall budget.
 

VulgarDisplay

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We need to see what these new API's do to the CPU market. I for one can foresee better mutlithreading and reduced IPC needs in games increasing demand cpus with more slower cores.

I think that will benefit AMD more than Intel at the moment, but Intel will surely adjust to the market if it does change. 16 core Jaguar in my next desktop please.
 

Deders

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It does make me wonder if I'll need to upgrade my CPU at all in the next few years.
 

dn7309

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if DX12 work like they claim, all my future build will be AMD APU and then I'll plug it into my living room TV and game at 1080p
 

VulgarDisplay

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if DX12 work like they claim, all my future build will be AMD APU and then I'll plug it into my living room TV and game at 1080p

AMD's APU's aren't there yet. They need a solution to their bandwith problems before you can be satisfied with 1080p gaming on an APU.
 

cytg111

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Since we're all pretty much maxed out CPU wise when it comes to gaming the only reasonable thing would be to add more gpu compute. I say 40%
 

cytg111

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Mantle/DX12 aren't going to change my budget, just increase my performance (hopefully).

well the poll is sorta gimped, it says spend x more on gpu, but leaves out the spend y less on the cpu except for the last option .. so theres a kardinal of choises left outthere

If you're building a general gaming rig, surely you'd buy balanced components.
 

escrow4

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In a properly coded game the CPU should do little but feed the GPU especially at 1200p or above; my 780 Ti has close to 3,000 cores the game engine should use that to the fullest not shove physics or AI or some other CPU killing settings (Hitman Absolution, Crysis 3) onto the CPU.

My spending patterns won't change, I'll upgrade next to big Maxwell (not a gimped Kepler 680 choice) and DX 12 if there is a substantial increase (say 30% at least). The non K 4770 will remain for a while yet. I only play single player, so there is nothing that really tests that i7.
 

KentState

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I typically buy the best CPU/single GPU option available. Anything that can be done on the driver or software side is seen as icing on the cake. This will not have any impact beyond which GPU manufacturer has the best driver set.
 
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For my gaming rig, spend less on CPU and use that saving for a better GPU or bigger SSD.

But that will be further down the track, maybe 1-2 years after DX12 release.
 

Ed1

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I would hope that game Dev will now be able to add more advanced AI and other computational features to make games more advanced .
Instead of having game more graphic but toning down AI and other parts because not enough CPU cycles left .
 

DominionSeraph

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I don't see the API improvements having enough of an effect. It's not going to make a $50 Pentium suddenly worthy of more than a ~$150 GPU. When you jump to the $130 CPU range you're at mid to mid-high GPU, and above that the GPU prices increase to the point where it's hard to recommend them over the jump to an overclockable i5.