If cybersquatting of domains is illegial, then how come domain registrars can "broker" names?

SunnyD

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Especially for insane amounts of cash? Essentially unregistered names are being bought up by registrars and then "held for ransom" to people who want to register down the road.

Isn't this illegal?
 

Viper GTS

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Generic names that nobody would have a logical claim to are fine to squat, the only ones that have typically been taken away are when people register names that would infringe on other people or companies.

For example, if you'd gotten pepsi.com back before it was registered you'd likely have it taken from you.

Occasionally this goes awry (nissan.com).

Viper GTS
 

KK

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Generic names that nobody would have a logical claim to are fine to squat, the only ones that have typically been taken away are when people register names that would infringe on other people or companies.

For example, if you'd gotten pepsi.com back before it was registered you'd likely have it taken from you.

Occasionally this goes awry (nissan.com).

Viper GTS

Why'd nissan go awry? You got Nissan computer store and Nissan motors, looks like the computer store got it first.

KK
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Generic names that nobody would have a logical claim to are fine to squat, the only ones that have typically been taken away are when people register names that would infringe on other people or companies.

But does this involve reselling the domain for sums of money that far exceed the amount it can be registered for if it were immediately available? I thought that was in violation of the ICANN rules as well.

 

Viper GTS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Generic names that nobody would have a logical claim to are fine to squat, the only ones that have typically been taken away are when people register names that would infringe on other people or companies.

For example, if you'd gotten pepsi.com back before it was registered you'd likely have it taken from you.

Occasionally this goes awry (nissan.com).

Viper GTS

Why'd nissan go awry? You got Nissan computer store and Nissan motors, looks like the computer store got it first.

KK

Did you happen to see that his store has been shut down?

He was basically told that while they would not outright force him to give up the domain, he had to convert it to non commercial use.

If that's not a royal screwing I don't know what is.

It'd be different if his name was Uzi Smith, but his fvcking name is Nissan for Chrissakes!

Viper GTS
 

SunnyD

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Not like it will do any good, but I just filed a complaint with ICANN - like they'll do anything about it.
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Jzero

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Generic names that nobody would have a logical claim to are fine to squat, the only ones that have typically been taken away are when people register names that would infringe on other people or companies.

For example, if you'd gotten pepsi.com back before it was registered you'd likely have it taken from you.

Occasionally this goes awry (nissan.com).

Viper GTS

The problem with the Nissan issue was that it predates ICANN and UDRP. Even a corrupt UDRP panel would not have ruled in favor of Nissan Motors.
 

Acts837

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Generic names that nobody would have a logical claim to are fine to squat, the only ones that have typically been taken away are when people register names that would infringe on other people or companies.

But does this involve reselling the domain for sums of money that far exceed the amount it can be registered for if it were immediately available? I thought that was in violation of the ICANN rules as well.

Violation of what rule? There is no restriction on what a domain can be bought and sold for. If a TM issue is involved then the TM/SM holder will in most cases win at UDRP.