If Anybody's really Interested . .

[CaptnKirk]

In the Investigations of Election Fraud

But of Course, It's The Democrats Fault


Well, it's been over 5 years, and as the trail gets colder, there may just have been enough
deflection, mis-direction, and influence to protect those who actually did commit Election Fraud
to have them drop off of the public's radar, since the voters are perceived to only have a 15
minute attention span at the most.

Prediction: 'Who cares what happened in the past, Clinton probably did it too,
and why are you not paying more attention to Britney and Jamie Slut Spears?

 

[MadRat]

Holy shit, batman. The election was stolen in the name of national security...

 

[Craig234]

You look at this corruption of the justice system, and it's disgusting, and you wonder how the party members of the party who is doing it can stand it - but take the terrible example where a clearly, grossly corrupt congreessman, Cunningham, was caught and convicted.

No republican I've seen defends him, and yet, what would be the horrible act by the party? To punish the US Attorney who prosecuted him. And what did the Bush administration do? They got rid of the attorney for prosecuting a republican, however corrupt.

Where is the outrage, the condemnation, of the republican voters against this terrible corruption of Justice by Gonzales, with Bush's support? I don't hear a peep. I don't see them posting in big bolded words how they're horrified.

 

[nageov3t]

but srsly, why AREN'T you paying more attention to britney spears?

did you hear that a jacket she wore is being sold on ebay? AND IT STILL SMELLS LIKE HER!?

/ignore the men behind the curtain, nothing to see there...

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Craig234
You look at this corruption of the justice system, and it's disgusting, and you wonder how the party members of the party who is doing it can stand it - but take the terrible example where a clearly, grossly corrupt congreessman, Cunningham, was caught and convicted.

No republican I've seen defends him, and yet, what would be the horrible act by the party? To punish the US Attorney who prosecuted him. And what did the Bush administration do? They got rid of the attorney for prosecuting a republican, however corrupt.

Where is the outrage, the condemnation, of the republican voters against this terrible corruption of Justice by Gonzales, with Bush's support? I don't hear a peep. I don't see them posting in big bolded words how they're horrified.

This is exactly why I made this post in the style I did - to point out the hippocracy of those who defend this fiasco.

When the tires were slashed by some kids who were the sons of some Democrats, they cried out for the enforcement of the death sentence.

When a women's orginization came into question of the hiring of solicitors to obtain signatures and voter registreation,
they were willing to enforce crimes as if they were serial murderers demanding maximum severe penalties.

But now, when there have in fact been convictions, and the evidence indicats explicit conspiritorial involvement
and colusion of the effort at the leadership level of the Republican Party itself, and co-ordinated to that level . .



not a word . .



not even a wisper . . .


change the subject to anything else, anything at all



deflect blame.

 

[1EZduzit]

The GOP should make "the end justifies the means" a party plank.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
In the Investigations of Election Fraud

But of Course, It's The Democrats Fault


Well, it's been over 5 years, and as the trail gets colder, there may just have been enough
deflection, mis-direction, and influence to protect those who actually did commit Election Fraud
to have them drop off of the public's radar, since the voters are perceived to only have a 15
minute attention span at the most.

Prediction: 'Who cares what happened in the past, Clinton probably did it too,
and why are you not paying more attention to Britney and Jamie Slut Spears?

The way I read it, they've all already been convicted. Who's getting off in your opinion?

The only "person" not indicted/convicted seems to be state party. I'm not sure what the point of that is. If it were treated as a corporate entity as Hinnen wanted it's still just a fictional person. Seems all the actual people have been prosecuted.

Let's see:

At the outset, the federal investigation hit a snag when Thomas Colantuono, the U.S. attorney for New Hampshire, withdrew from the case in early 2003 because his wife was a Bush-Cheney campaign worker. Justice Department officials then assigned the case to Hinnen, a prosecutor in the Computer Crimes Section.

So, a person with a potential conflict of interest was removed and replaced by a Dem.

Hinnen, now an aide to Democratic presidential candidate and Delaware Sen. Joseph Biden, said he couldn't comment on the investigation.

The decision not to prosecute the state party under Hinnen's theory was a career employee, not a political appointee.

Ultimately, John Keeney, a career deputy assistant attorney general, directed Hinnen to drop the idea.

Hinnen argues, prhaps rightfully so IMO, that Tobin should'nt be allowed to serve as a campaign official.

On Oct. 1, 2004, Hinnen got the green light to prepare an indictment, but was directed to first give Tobin lawyer O'Donnell a chance to make his client's case. O'Donnell requested delays and then told Hinnen, Parsky and other senior officials that an unidentified lawyer had advised Tobin that the jamming was legal.

Hinnen argued to his superiors that it was irresponsible for the department to allow Tobin to serve as a Bush campaign official when it had evidence that he'd hindered people from voting.

In late October 2004, Justice Department officials told Hinnen it was too close to the election to bring such a politically sensitive indictment, putting it off until late November.

But I see that Tobin did resign:

In mid- October 2004, Tobin resigned as the Bush-Cheney campaign's regional director after a news report disclosed allegations of his involvement.

This 30-day delay may need to be investigated:

In late October 2004, Justice Department officials told Hinnen it was too close to the election to bring such a politically sensitive indictment, putting it off until late November.

But anytime someone pursues something like this JUST before an election it's gonna look fishy. I'm not sure a 30-day delay is unresonable. Plus Tobin had already resigned etc.

After reading this carefully, I don't see the big problem. Everybodies been convicted etc. A Dem lawyer mentions blown statute of limitations, but I can only assume that refers to efforts to prosecute the state party, everybody else has been prosecuted.

Fern