if an Israeli police officer shoots @ a criminal in a crowded mall & kills 20 civilians...

[JTsyo]

Right now Hamas is firing crappy rockets. Should Israel sit back and wait until they learn how to make better rockets? Or maybe wait until they use chemical attacks. I understand some of the complaints that the people of Gaza has but rockets aren't the solution. Non-violent actions would play much better in international view than trying to get Israel to kill civilians.

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: JTsyo
Right now Hamas is firing crappy rockets. Should Israel sit back and wait until they learn how to make better rockets? Or maybe wait until they use chemical attacks. I understand some of the complaints that the people of Gaza has but rockets aren't the solution. Non-violent actions would play much better in international view than trying to get Israel to kill civilians.

It's super great and effective when you're staging a non-violent protest inside of a barrel--and the folks you're protesting against are shooting you.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: JTsyo
Right now Hamas is firing crappy rockets. Should Israel sit back and wait until they learn how to make better rockets? Or maybe wait until they use chemical attacks. I understand some of the complaints that the people of Gaza has but rockets aren't the solution. Non-violent actions would play much better in international view than trying to get Israel to kill civilians.

Israeli should stop holding Palestinian under overwhelming military force while colonizing the Palestinian homeland out from under them.

Decades of Israel denying Palestine's right to exist is what has driven so many Palestinians to the insanity of shooting rockets at Israel.

Our media and government leaders focus on the terrorists while ignore colonizers, keeping the public from understanding how to end this madness.

The answer is simple; to end this conflict we must condemn not just the terrorists but also the colonizers, as those are the ones who have been perfecting this conflict for decades in their mad conquest of land.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: JTsyo
Right now Hamas is firing crappy rockets. Should Israel sit back and wait until they learn how to make better rockets? Or maybe wait until they use chemical attacks. I understand some of the complaints that the people of Gaza has but rockets aren't the solution. Non-violent actions would play much better in international view than trying to get Israel to kill civilians.

Israeli should stop holding Palestinian under overwhelming military force while colonizing the Palestinian homeland out from under them.

Decades of Israel denying Palestine's right to exist is what has driven so many Palestinians to the insanity of shooting rockets at Israel.

Our media and government leaders focus on the terrorists while ignore colonizers, keeping the public from understanding how to end this madness.

The answer is simple; to end this conflict we must condemn not just the terrorists but also the colonizers, as those are the ones who have been perfecting this conflict for decades in their mad conquest of land.

Sorry, but they have to do it through non-violent means. You cannot reward them for launching rockets.

They know they put themselves, their families, and thier nieghbors in jeopardy when they take up arms against a superior fighting force.

I wish the militant to civilian kill ratio was better, but when the people you are fighting are cowards and wont stand and fight, civilians die.

 

[Jiggz]

Originally posted by: poohbear
just curious, if an israeli police officer shoots @ a criminal (a murderer lets say) in a crowded mall & kills 20 civilians as "collateral damage", would he get charged w/ 20 counts of manslaughter? I'm pretty sure a police officer that did such a thing in the USA would be in prison the rest of his life. if its not accepted, why is it ok for israel to use the same strategy in the palestinian territories but not in its own land? could the israelis, of all people, view the palestinians as sub-human?

the latest death toll is 784 palestinians and 13 israelis. Yes, 13 israelis, 10 of which were soldiers, and only 3 civilians.

more civilians die in a weekend of crime in chicago than the entire war in israel it would seem.

Hypothetical scenarios are pathetic posts! Next . . .

 

[Doboji]

This thread is another stupid thread... Stop trying to point one side as more right than the other...

If you were Israeli... and rockets were being shot at your children... you would care more about the danger to your children than the Palestinians killed in an effort to protect your children.

If you were Palestinian.... and bombs were dropping near your children... what would you do?

It's easy to sit here thousands of miles away and pass judgement.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: poohbear
just curious, if an israeli police officer shoots @ a criminal (a murderer lets say) in a crowded mall & kills 20 civilians as "collateral damage", would he get charged w/ 20 counts of manslaughter? I'm pretty sure a police officer that did such a thing in the USA would be in prison the rest of his life. if its not accepted, why is it ok for israel to use the same strategy in the palestinian territories but not in its own land? could the israelis, of all people, view the palestinians as sub-human?

the latest death toll is 784 palestinians and 13 israelis. Yes, 13 israelis, 10 of which were soldiers, and only 3 civilians.

more civilians die in a weekend of crime in chicago than the entire war in israel it would seem.

You obviously have never been to Israel. Why would an office shoot in a crowded mall when all people entering a mall in Israel are searched and run thru metal detectors?

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: poohbear
just curious, if an israeli police officer shoots @ a criminal (a murderer lets say) in a crowded mall & kills 20 civilians as "collateral damage", would he get charged w/ 20 counts of manslaughter? I'm pretty sure a police officer that did such a thing in the USA would be in prison the rest of his life. if its not accepted, why is it ok for israel to use the same strategy in the palestinian territories but not in its own land? could the israelis, of all people, view the palestinians as sub-human?

the latest death toll is 784 palestinians and 13 israelis. Yes, 13 israelis, 10 of which were soldiers, and only 3 civilians.

more civilians die in a weekend of crime in chicago than the entire war in israel it would seem.

You obviously have never been to Israel. Why would an office shoot in a crowded mall when all people entering a mall in Israel are searched and run thru metal detectors?

That is sooooo true.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: poohbear
the latest death toll is 784 palestinians and 13 israelis. Yes, 13 israelis, 10 of which were soldiers, and only 3 civilians.

Based on those stats, I'd say that the Israeli team is going to win this one.

Is it halftime yet? I need to take a leak...

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: poohbear
the latest death toll is 784 palestinians and 13 israelis. Yes, 13 israelis, 10 of which were soldiers, and only 3 civilians.

Based on those stats, I'd say that the Israeli team is going to win this one.

Is it halftime yet? I need to take a leak...

9/11: 3,000 Americans and foreigners in America, 19 Al Queda (volunteers).

Based on those stats, I'd say the Osama team won that one.

Is it halftime yet?

Sure takes a lot of character to dehumanize people and laugh at their getting killed.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW they found the bodies of two Hamas militants at the school, I am sure they were just dropping their kids off for the day.

Good good.. so how many childrens bodies were found?

2 Militants.. 20 Children

How would that make you feel if that was the US Army who murdered those children?

I'd expect to see more dead militants, whatever the cost.

 

[Jaskalas]

OP.

Let's say, for example, that if you launch a rocket you die. Launch it from your home, and your family will die. Hamas chooses its location knowing full well the reason behind it. Their people, as they are killed, garner your support for their war effort.

You are not living in reality, to be able to condemn stopping terrorists over bloodshed when it is your VERY condemnation that will guarantee they live to carry out further bloodshed.

Your ideology has prospered for the past 50 years, and we have seen what it has wrought upon this world. Israel has not been allowed to conclude this war, and STOP the bloodshed. Every single time they attempt to do so, the UN and the US force Israel to surrender. The terrorists live to fight another day.

You say the cost of victory is too great a price to pay, when you're not even the one paying it. Hamas and the people supporting it would pay that price. You apparently don't care about the cost of letting them continue their use of human shields, for DECADES, after we would have eliminated the organization.

You don't care about the cost on their enemy, you only care about the cost on them. This is what defines you as their sympathizer, and their supporter and of having the blood Hamas spills on your hands. Hamas shouldn't even be alive to spill that blood.

I say stop Hamas, you say protect it. I find that as intolerable as you find my position. We are on opposite sides of a very real war.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Israeli should stop holding Palestinian under overwhelming military force while colonizing the Palestinian homeland out from under them.

Decades of Israel denying Palestine's right to exist is what has driven so many Palestinians to the insanity of shooting rockets at Israel.

Our media and government leaders focus on the terrorists while ignore colonizers, keeping the public from understanding how to end this madness.

The answer is simple; to end this conflict we must condemn not just the terrorists but also the colonizers, as those are the ones who have been perfecting this conflict for decades in their mad conquest of land.

Sorry, but they have to do it through non-violent means. You cannot reward them for launching rockets.
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Yet we continue to reward Israel for colonizing the West Bank which they have been doing for decades before anyone started firing rockets?

Is it that you enjoy seeing this madness contenue?

 

[Capt Caveman]

nvm