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If all you have hiking in bear territory is...

Was going to say I think we've discussed this before.

Best bet would use it to scare. Otherwise you'll probably just piss it off. Maybe go Butters on it and shoot it in the dick. If you're getting mauled maybe jam it in the eye or mouth before pulling the trigger. Maybe spray yourself with pepper spray, this way at least you know you'll get some revenge when you come out the other end.

Ok, so Grizzly Bear with a 9mm or gorilla with a rifle in riot gear? You know the bear is gonna turn it sideways, but the gorilla might go James May and point the gun in its own face.
 
Just shoot yourself in the head to avoid the experience of being eaten alive and why are you out there with a 9mm to begin with ?
 
I'm no surgeon, but sterile surgical tools, pre-surgery antibiotic treatment and a well prepped/sanitized operating room will significantly lower the risk of infection.
 
brainhulk said:
a 9mm handgun, what kind of shot placement would you need to kill them if they attacked you?
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You're not likely to kill a bear with a 9mm.

You might startle it and chase it off. OTOH, you could also piss it off.

You rolls your dice and takes your chances.





Also - As a matter of ethics: If you can't carry enough to put the animal down humanely, then you have no business pulling the trigger.
 
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9mm will just piss off the bear. When we were in the Alaska back country back in '94 we carried a Remington 12GA marine magnum. Short barrel, I had it strapped to the side of my external frame backpack. I could have it out quickly. 3" magnum slugs. The thing's short barrel threw a fireball a foot out the end which was impressive. Kicked though. I could put a bunch of rounds in it though.
 
I don't think healthy bears attack people,they avoid them.It's usually very old,or sick bears or a fool who has found him/herself between a cub or cubs and momma bear.In any case there is no gun that will absolutely protect you or your party from an apex predator in attack mode.The 9MM was developed to shoot humans,to shoot a bear with it will probably land you either in jail or the grave yard.
 
I go hiking with a .454 casull. It is a hand cannon putting out about 1900 ft/lbs of energy compared to around 500 ft/lbs for a 9mm, and even then I'm supposed to hit the bear in the shoulder to break it, not the head.

9mm is useless against a bear. .45 is almost just as useless as it just doesn't have the ability to break anything on the bear. I wouldn't go with anything less than a .357.
 
hdfxst said:
a 12 ga. with slugs will stop a grizzly bear
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It can, but it's a piss poor choice. Saying "just take a shotgun" is implying a shotgun is the best choice, but it's not even close.

I don't use a shotgun hunting black bears, grizzly is a completely different beast.
 
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