[if] Al-Qaida sends 20 snipers to major US cities....

datalink7

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Hypothetical situation.

I don't think that this would be all that hard to accomplish. Were I a terriorist organization, I would seriously be considering this after the sniper.

The thing is, how would we stop it? A large scale sniper attack on the US would be devastating and really hard to stop if they execute it correctly.

Does anyone have any idea on what prevention measures we could take? I think we are pretty vunerable to something of this sort.
 

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more concealed carry. hard to kill more than one person when people turn toward the car speeding away and open fire.

vigilante justice at its finest.
 

UNCjigga

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Please put IF in your title...too many chicken-little's on this forum (myself included :))
 

DrumminBoy

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How would they transport their guns here? Buying them in the states would be just a LITTLE suspicious...especially 20.
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: DrumminBoy
How would they transport their guns here? Buying them in the states would be just a LITTLE suspicious...especially 20.

Not if they did it individually at different places. Or purchased from the gray/black market.

They certainly aren't going to waltz in, all 20 of them, and buy 20 sniper rifles from one gun store.
 

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Originally posted by: DrumminBoy
How would they transport their guns here?
The same way the drug dealers do it. Duh. ;)
If you've got the money anything is possible.

 

rudder

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Wouldn't happen in Tennessee anyway. Too many good ol' boys packing heat especially now that hunting season is kicking in.
 

Kev

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I don't think they'd do this. Why? Bombs are much easier, more effective, and give them less of a chance of being caught.
 

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Originally posted by: rudder
Wouldn't happen in Tennessee anyway. Too many good ol' boys packing heat especially now that hunting season is kicking in.

same in ND :D
 

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Originally posted by: maladroit
I don't think they'd do this. Why? Bombs are much easier, more effective, and give them less of a chance of being caught.

That, and it's kind of hard to detain & interrogate a bucket full of homicide bomber body parts.
 

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: maladroit
I don't think they'd do this. Why? Bombs are much easier, more effective, and give them less of a chance of being caught.

That, and it's kind of hard to detain & interrogate a bucket full of homicide bomber body parts.

you mean suicide?
 

silverpig

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I'm no terrorism expert, but it seems as though most of the Al-Qaeda guys lay low, then go out with a large bang. They don't seem the type to kill one person, then go hide for a day, then go kill another... They want Americans to know who hit them.
 

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you mean suicide?

Semantics. If some guy walks out into the middle of a corn field and blows himself to bits, it's suicide. If some guy walks into the middle of a crowed public area and blows himself up, along with 50 other innocent civilians, it's homicide.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: maladroit
I don't think they'd do this. Why? Bombs are much easier, more effective, and give them less of a chance of being caught.

That, and it's kind of hard to detain & interrogate a bucket full of homicide bomber body parts.

They don't necessarily have to kill themselves, they could just set someone up the bomb and then leave. But since they're a bunch of dumb apes, they probably would kill themselves.
 

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I have AN EASY SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM. It would take some people that aren't little bitches and scared of everything but this sniper sh*t could have been taken care of a week ago.

This would be less effective against real snipers since they would hit from a bigger distance but these sniper we just caught could have been caught a week ago.

Here is how it is done:

If you are in a crowded area like Home Depot and a person gets shot. Instead of everyone ducking for cover, a group of people need to be running to where the shots came from. He shot from around 50 yards. That should be easy to cover. He wasn't that great of a shot and with like 10 people running towards him he is screwed. This would allow someone to at least see what he looks like and what type of car and possibly take the guy down. The sniper never shot more than one person at a time so ducking for cover was pointless. People should have been pursueing him. Now this puts you in the direct line of danger but I do not think that he would have been able to deal with 10 people coming at him.

Of course when he hits someone when many people aren't around then that is a different story but if there are at least 7 people then I think it could have been done.

Of course I know this is not realistic because people don't want to be in the line of danger but if I was with a few of my friends then I would have suggested it had I been in the situation.

I personally think the law enforcement did a great job. The media IMO sucked ass. They were the problem the entire time. So many times the media went beyond where they should have. The local police, FBI, and ATF all did a great job.
 

Easier to have 20 suicide bombers to drive 20 car bombs into 20 crowded places simultaneously. Certainly more terrifying.
 

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If you are in a crowded area like Home Depot and a person gets shot. Instead of everyone ducking for cover, a group of people need to be running to where the shots came from.

Much easier said than done. Try convincing fellow bystanders of this at the same time they are so preoccupied with saving their own skin. Especially unarmed bystanders.
 

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Originally posted by: burnedout
If you are in a crowded area like Home Depot and a person gets shot. Instead of everyone ducking for cover, a group of people need to be running to where the shots came from.

Much easier said than done. Try convincing fellow bystanders of this at the same time they are so preoccupied with saving their own skin. Especially unarmed bystanders.

Oh I totally agree. I don't say that it would happen or would be easy done with most people but it is an easy solution if people would attempt it.
 

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Psst...
Dirty little secret...
You cannot stop terrorism.
You can blow up Mecca, thus proving the non-existance of Allah, thus taking all the wind out of their cause.

Not that we would never do that because 75% of Muslims are not eval.
 

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: burnedout
If you are in a crowded area like Home Depot and a person gets shot. Instead of everyone ducking for cover, a group of people need to be running to where the shots came from.

Much easier said than done. Try convincing fellow bystanders of this at the same time they are so preoccupied with saving their own skin. Especially unarmed bystanders.

Oh I totally agree. I don't say that it would happen or would be easy done with most people but it is an easy solution if people would attempt it.

You first. :)
 

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Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider Psst... Dirty little secret... You cannot stop terrorism.
You can blow up Mecca, thus proving the non-existance of Allah, thus taking all the wind out of their cause. Not that we would never do that because 75% of Muslims are not eval.

You can blow up any number of places besides. Now having said that, you cannot stop someone who is willing to kill if they are willing to die in the effort. You might convince them that what they are dying for is in error, but if they wanna do it, it's going to happen. Sorry to rain on everyones party, but if you think about it, you can see it's true
 

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If you are in a crowded area like Home Depot and a person gets shot. Instead of everyone ducking for cover, a group of people need to be running to where the shots came from. He shot from around 50 yards. That should be easy to cover. He wasn't that great of a shot and with like 10 people running towards him he is screwed. This would allow someone to at least see what he looks like and what type of car and possibly take the guy down. The sniper never shot more than one person at a time so ducking for cover was pointless. People should have been pursueing him.
Ever tried to discern the direction a shot is coming from in the middle of a strip mall? It is extremely difficult if not impossible. Sound is coming from everywhere. That is just one error in your idea, the other is that only a few people were within earshot of any of the shootings. There is a reason nobody has reported seeing the sniper, because in these suburban/urban environments, it is impossible to discern from which direction a single shot came. You have to wait for follow up shots, which the sniper never took.

Israel dealt with this problem by arming its citizens, which successfully defended against several attacks by killing the shooter. Then of course, when that wasn't working anymore, the snipers turned into suicide bombers. Can't protect yourself from that.
 

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Originally posted by: stev0
Originally posted by: rudder
Wouldn't happen in Tennessee anyway. Too many good ol' boys packing heat especially now that hunting season is kicking in.

same in ND :D

looks like your liberal states are going to be screwed then..Plenty of gun owners in the South as well