If a visiting pitcher goes 8-innings without allowing a hit..

Syringer

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But allowed a run or two, prevents a bottom of the ninth from taking place.. and has his team lose a game..does that count as a no-hitter?
 

RaynorWolfcastle

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Originally posted by: Syringer
But allowed a run or two, prevents a bottom of the ninth from taking place.. and has his team lose a game..does that count as a no-hitter?

yeah it's possible to pitch a no-hitter and lose because of walks and errors... not sure if it's ever happened before though
 

Kevin

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I don't think it would ever happen since the manager would most likely pull him. You would need a lot of walks, errors and passed balls to score on a no hitter...
 

Syringer

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Not really..I've seen lots of runs scored without there being a hit at all. Just a walk and an error can do it..
 

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Originally posted by: Syringer
But allowed a run or two, prevents a bottom of the ninth from taking place.. and has his team lose a game..does that count as a no-hitter?

Umm the visiting team must always pitch the bottom of the 9th. Home teams go to bat in the bottom half of the innings.

Raynor is right, a pitcher who has a no-hitter lets say through eight innings but pitches in the 9th can still lose if he gives up a run by a combination of errors, walks, passed balls(catcher lets balls go past him), and stolen bases.
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Not really..I've seen lots of runs scored without there being a hit at all. Just a walk and an error can do it..
Yeah.

Walk the lead off man. Guy gets to second on a sac bunt. 1 out. Guy steals third. Sac fly brings him home or an error. Granted, this is one of a ridiculous amount of possible ways it could happen, but I've seen 0 hits in an inning with runs scored.
 

RaynorWolfcastle

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Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: Syringer
Not really..I've seen lots of runs scored without there being a hit at all. Just a walk and an error can do it..
Yeah.

Walk the lead off man. Guy gets to second on a sac bunt. 1 out. Guy steals third. Sac fly brings him home or an error. Granted, this is one of a ridiculous amount of possible ways it could happen, but I've seen 0 hits in an inning with runs scored.

much more likely that he'd steal second and get bunted over to 3rd, btw :p ;)
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: Storm
Originally posted by: Syringer
But allowed a run or two, prevents a bottom of the ninth from taking place.. and has his team lose a game..does that count as a no-hitter?

Umm the visiting team must always pitch the bottom of the 9th. Home teams go to bat in the bottom half of the innings.

Umm not if the home team is winning.
 

joe678

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its happened before, some pitcher forgot his name, on the yankees (before they started buying up everyone and winning championships) pitched a no-hitter and lost like 2-0 or something on errors/walks...

edit: they never took him out cause the game was technically still close... also i think he pitched at home... which makes it even worse...
 

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Storm
Originally posted by: Syringer
But allowed a run or two, prevents a bottom of the ninth from taking place.. and has his team lose a game..does that count as a no-hitter?

Umm the visiting team must always pitch the bottom of the 9th. Home teams go to bat in the bottom half of the innings.

Umm not if the home team is winning.

Haha silly me right... :)
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: joe678
its happened before, some pitcher forgot his name, on the yankees (before they started buying up everyone and winning championships) pitched a no-hitter and lost like 2-0 or something on errors/walks...

edit: they never took him out cause the game was technically still close... also i think he pitched at home... which makes it even worse...

The question is whether or not it's happened to a visiting pitcher..meaning he'd be pitch only 8 innings.
 

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According to this site, it's happened before, and the major league scoring commitee decided ultimately that it didn't count as a no-hitter.

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nitsuj3580

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yes, Andy Hawkins of the NY Yankees back years ago pitched a no-hitter but lost 4-0 to I think the White Sox.

(don't ask me how I know this. I just like baseball a lot :))

EDIT: Ah, just saw that link Basilisk that you posted. Interesting. Last time I was in Cooperstown, the display with all the pitchers that have had no-hitters still had Hawkins up there.
 

joe678

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Originally posted by: nitsuj3580
yes, Andy Hawkins of the NY Yankees back years ago pitched a no-hitter but lost 4-0 to I think the White Sox.

(don't ask me how I know this. I just like baseball a lot :))

THATS his name...hehe...:D
 

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I believe this happened before... Yankees vs. ? back in the late 80's/early 90's. I don't recall details because I was real young then - and didn't care so much. BOTH pitchers were no-hitting batters and finally the non-Yankee pitcher had to be pulled because they were headed into extra innings...