If a restaurant brews their own beer, how much does it costs them?

[JEDI]

all their flavors = $2.25 for 20oz

the stout is delicious!

 

[ThatsABigOne]

I hope you don't get sick. :awe:

 

[Raizinman]

It doesn't matter what it costs them, it matters what they sell it for.

What should they sell it for? Market value. Or, basically the msot they can unless they use this to draw in people to sell their higher priced food or such.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

All who's flavors?
I tend to buy ingredients in smaller batches and due to liking bigger beers, my costs run close to a buck a beer.

 

[zanemoseley]

I can brew 10 gallons (100 beers) of a basic pale ale for about $25 using dry yeast and buying cascade hops in bulk. So $.25 a beer. They're buying grain and hops in bulk and washing (reusing) yeast so they probably have $.15 max per 12 oz or about $.25 on a 20 oz glass, 10X markup isn't too bad.

 

[Matthiasa]

To get the proper taste there was probably some research involved with each of the different flavors as well.

 

[shortylickens]

When I can I prefer microbrews to mass produced garbage.

 

[KillerCharlie]

$2.25 for microbrew? holy crap

 

[destrekor]

To get the proper taste there was probably some research involved with each of the different flavors as well.

A lot of factors get calculated into costs passed on to consumer, that's a natural factor of business.
Cost of equipment and non-consumable resources (electricity and energy in general, man-hours, gasses and equipment for keg production, bottling) will be a big hit, especially if buying product for bulk brewing (large batches).
The actual cost, on a recurring cost basis (ignoring the one-time + maintenance costs), is probably spare-change-level [per serving], on the order of a quarter or less I'd wager. And yes, that does include energy and man-hours involved with production.

Serving prices, however, make up for cost-basis and everything else. Man-hours for regular operational costs and, of course profits, are factored at that point.

 

[jupiter57]

Dude!!!!
What's up with you & brianmanahan spamming the forum with grown up stuff, like beer, work, 401Ks, etc.?

You kids trying to get a leg up for when you graduate HS, or just typical ATOT BS threads?

 

[BurnItDwn]

Costs vary a lot in ingredients.

I'd imagine lagers are under 5 cents per pint, infrastructure and operations costs are the big factors there.

Something like a 100+ IBU Imperial stout or IPA, the costs are probably much, much, higher...

 

[OutHouse]

It doesn't matter what it costs them, it matters what they sell it for.

What should they sell it for? Market value. Or, basically the msot they can unless they use this to draw in people to sell their higher priced food or such.

business 101 fail

 

[sourceninja]

My 5 gallon batch I'm making this weekend will cost me $0.50 per beer in ingredients. Not counted in this cost is the 3+ hours of my time and the 5-8 weeks of waiting to drink it. I have about $400 in equipment, but I've already recouped that from previous beer batches.

 

[BurnItDwn]

My 5 gallon batch I'm making this weekend will cost me $0.50 per beer in ingredients. Not counted in this cost is the 3+ hours of my time and the 5-8 weeks of waiting to drink it. I have about $400 in equipment, but I've already recouped that from previous beer batches.

Try making a sack mead .... $2+ per pint in ingredients, and waiting 2+ years to drink it

 

[waggy]

My 5 gallon batch I'm making this weekend will cost me $0.50 per beer in ingredients. Not counted in this cost is the 3+ hours of my time and the 5-8 weeks of waiting to drink it. I have about $400 in equipment, but I've already recouped that from previous beer batches.

the cost of buying the equipment is why i don't want to get into it. i LOVE a good beer. a buddy of mine (before he moved) would brew his own. the pale ale he made was great i could drink that stuff all fucking day.

 

[sourceninja]

Oh you don't have to spend anywhere near that much to make great beer.

You can do extract with just a 5 gallon pot and a 6.5 gallon bucket. It would cost less than $150.00 for everything, even less if you already have a 5 gallon kettle.

If you wanted to, you could brew smaller than 5 gallon batches and use even cheaper stuff. I do 5 gallon All grain brews, but even then my setup is more complex than it needs to be.

All that would be needed is:

1 6.5 gallon bucket with lid and airlock ($15-20)
Hoses and auto-siphons - $10-15.
1 bottling bucket - $15
1 Cooler converted to mash tun (Less than $50-100)
1 8 to 10 gallon kettle $35
1 heat source (a nice outdoor turkey fryer will do ok, and might even include your kettle) $25-50
1 immersion cooler (Can be made for less than $40.00 or bought for $60-90).

When you look at the price of good craft beer being around $10 per 6 pack you get a cost of $1.50 per beer (actually more like $1.60, but math is easier with $1.50). The total cost of equipment on the should be around $240.00. The cost of ingredients for a simple 5 gallon batch is $24.00 (assuming you use all grain kits from online supply shops like morebeer or northernbrewer, that's 48 beers at $0.50 a beer). Ingredients could be cheaper if you bought your grain in bulk and added on a grain mill ($50-100). That puts your beer savings at $1.00 a beer or $48.00 a batch. That means you need to brew 5 batches of beer to break even. The 6th batch of beer saves you $48.00.

My setup is similar to the above, only I have a 15 gallon kettle with a nice stainless ball valve and thermometer and I use better bottles for my fermentation vessel. I made my chiller and I made my mash tun. I plan to add another kettle for a hot liquor tank to make the day go a bit faster.

This is all providing you don't screw up

 

[highland145]

^^^Pics form you or Burn?

Are the grain kits good. Sounds like a lot to spend if you have to experiment through 4 or 5 batches to get something that's good. And...

This is all providing you don't screw up

 

[sourceninja]

I don't have many pictures, but I'm brewing this weekend so I'll take some of my setup for you. Here is my new mash tun. I used barginfittings to order a kit (so I didn't have to hunt though home depot) and put a braid inside. I only do batch sparging.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I'm at work now, and haven't brewed a new batch in about a 10 months ... I need to get a nice brew kettle.... For Mead, I simply pasteurized the honey in my 10 quart stock pot .... I don't have a proper 30+ quart kettle yet

When I get a proper kettle, then it's time to make some Imperial Stout me thinks

 

[0roo0roo]

When I can I prefer microbrews to mass produced garbage.

whats the magical ingredient? unicorn tears?

 

[shortylickens]

whats the magical ingredient? unicorn tears?

No, love.

 

[Howard]

I don't have many pictures, but I'm brewing this weekend so I'll take some of my setup for you. Here is my new mash tun. I used barginfittings to order a kit (so I didn't have to hunt though home depot) and put a braid inside. I only do batch sparging.

1/2" stainless steel ball valve? How much did that cost you?

 

[stinkynathan]

Oh you don't have to spend anywhere near that much to make great beer.

You can do extract with just a 5 gallon pot and a 6.5 gallon bucket. It would cost less than $150.00 for everything, even less if you already have a 5 gallon kettle.

If you wanted to, you could brew smaller than 5 gallon batches and use even cheaper stuff. I do 5 gallon All grain brews, but even then my setup is more complex than it needs to be.

All that would be needed is:

1 6.5 gallon bucket with lid and airlock ($15-20)
Hoses and auto-siphons - $10-15.
1 bottling bucket - $15
1 Cooler converted to mash tun (Less than $50-100)
1 8 to 10 gallon kettle $35
1 heat source (a nice outdoor turkey fryer will do ok, and might even include your kettle) $25-50
1 immersion cooler (Can be made for less than $40.00 or bought for $60-90).

When you look at the price of good craft beer being around $10 per 6 pack you get a cost of $1.50 per beer (actually more like $1.60, but math is easier with $1.50). The total cost of equipment on the should be around $240.00. The cost of ingredients for a simple 5 gallon batch is $24.00 (assuming you use all grain kits from online supply shops like morebeer or northernbrewer, that's 48 beers at $0.50 a beer). Ingredients could be cheaper if you bought your grain in bulk and added on a grain mill ($50-100). That puts your beer savings at $1.00 a beer or $48.00 a batch. That means you need to brew 5 batches of beer to break even. The 6th batch of beer saves you $48.00.

My setup is similar to the above, only I have a 15 gallon kettle with a nice stainless ball valve and thermometer and I use better bottles for my fermentation vessel. I made my chiller and I made my mash tun. I plan to add another kettle for a hot liquor tank to make the day go a bit faster.

This is all providing you don't screw up

While this is all true....you don't get into homebrewing to save money on your craft beer addiction. Brewing at home will make you buy more craft beer ("research"), bigger kettles, bigger fermentors, gas burners, propane tanks, auto siphons, kegs, keezers, fermentation chambers, grain mills, then electic kettles, pumps,.... Pretty soon you're clearing out a corner in your basement, plumbing in water supply, and ventilating the space and your basement starts to look like mine.

 

[Gibsons]

While this is all true....you don't get into homebrewing to save money on your craft beer addiction. Brewing at home will make you buy more craft beer ("research"), bigger kettles, bigger fermentors, gas burners, propane tanks, auto siphons, kegs, keezers, fermentation chambers, grain mills, then electic kettles, pumps,.... Pretty soon you're clearing out a corner in your basement, plumbing in water supply, and ventilating the space and your basement starts to look like mine.

lol. This is why I've resisted the urge to home brew.

Maybe one day when I have space and extra money to dedicate to it.

 

[Zebo]

Sweet deal. Micro brews around here are $5-8 for 20oz.