I refused one ages ago, 2 cops said the area I was in was the wrong area for Caucasian people. So by their logic I had to be up to something illegal. I told them to get a warrant if they wanted to search my car. It was pretty cold outside and all I had on were shorts and a thin tee. They made me sit on the curb for about 45 minutes while they went back to their car and sat in there what looked like eating and laughing. They came back and said "we got the warrant" I knew they didn't. But I didn't want to find out what would happen if I questioned them.
So I let them search, they took everything in my trunk and scattered it all over it in the front of my car. And did the same with the shit in my my center console and glove box. Then they took my keys right in the middle underneath the drivers seat. After they said I was free to go it took me another 20 minutes to find my keys, I asked them what they did with them and they said nothing and just got back into their car. I was given no ticket, when I got where I was going I told the girl what happened. I wanted to contact their superiors to report them, she said not to bother because the cops in that area did a lot worse and it would be a waste of my time. I learned that night if you're in the wrong area you can in fact be pulled over for driving while white lol.
The 4th amendment's important but when a cop wants to be a dick nothing is going to stop them. I think if I had questioned them about seeing the warrant they got, I would have gotten arrested or smacked around. The lesson I learned is cops have power and sometimes you have to give in even if their requests have zero basis.
You guys saying "yeah I have nothing to hide" are probably the same ones who go ballistic about wiretapping, right? Well if you have nothing to hide, why would that bother you any either?
Now I'm not the sue-happy type at all - and the vast majority of lawsuits out there make me want to punch someone in the face - but if I got pulled over (hasn't happened yet) and they wanted to search my car, and I said no, and he forced the issue anyway, you bet I'd sue for wrongful search, trampling my rights, and any property damage. I do know a lawyer really well and I'm sure he'd help in a case like that. He's one of those rare good lawyers that actually care about the law and rights and so forth.
All you people giving in only make things worse, reinforcing the mentality that they can get away with it.
You guys saying "yeah I have nothing to hide" are probably the same ones who go ballistic about wiretapping, right? Well if you have nothing to hide, why would that bother you any either?
Now I'm not the sue-happy type at all - and the vast majority of lawsuits out there make me want to punch someone in the face - but if I got pulled over (hasn't happened yet) and they wanted to search my car, and I said no, and he forced the issue anyway, you bet I'd sue for wrongful search, trampling my rights, and any property damage. I do know a lawyer really well and I'm sure he'd help in a case like that. He's one of those rare good lawyers that actually care about the law and rights and so forth.
All you people giving in only make things worse, reinforcing the mentality that they can get away with it.
Your logic is impeccable. Question authority till it hurts ...
That's not what I'm saying. The point is they have NO authority to search your car without a warrant to do so. So no, I'm not questioning authority, I'm questioning their power trip.
But like I said, I've never been pulled over for anything since I started driving 6 years ago. I behave myself on the roads, so there is no reason to pull me over in the first place![]()
That's not what I'm saying. The point is they have NO authority to search your car without a warrant to do so. So no, I'm not questioning authority, I'm questioning their power trip.
Assuming the officer doesn't have probable cause:
Popo: "Do you have anything in your car I should know about?"
You: "No."
Popo: ""If you don't have anything to hide then you wouldn't mind me searching the vehicle right?
You: "Yes I do, I don't have anything to hide and do not give you permission to search my vehicle."
Fourth Amendment rights exercised and the officer now requires a search warrant before proceeding otherwise anything found is not permissible in court. He may or may not get one...and if you have nothing to hide then it won't matter anyways. You never just let them do it because it's "inevitable", that's un-American![]()
Hahaha.
If I tried that shit in the Bronx - they'd get a warrant instantly, get a dog to sniff out the car (ensuring the dog scratches the paint, and damages the interior), plant a bag of weed and a crack pipe in the glove compartment, proceed to arrest me, handcuff me, lie me face down, shoot me in the back, and find me guilty of assault if I survive the bullets.
In NYC Amendments mean nothing.
Hahaha.
If I tried that shit in the Bronx - they'd get a warrant instantly, get a dog to sniff out the car (ensuring the dog scratches the paint, and damages the interior), plant a bag of weed and a crack pipe in the glove compartment, proceed to arrest me, handcuff me, lie me face down, shoot me in the back, and find me guilty of assault if I survive the bullets.
In NYC Amendments mean nothing.
Do you declare that you have a CCP when you get pulled over? My instructor told me that was the smart thing to do even when you weren't carrying.
Hahaha.
If I tried that shit in the Bronx - they'd get a warrant instantly, get a dog to sniff out the car (ensuring the dog scratches the paint, and damages the interior), plant a bag of weed and a crack pipe in the glove compartment, proceed to arrest me, handcuff me, lie me face down, shoot me in the back, and find me guilty of assault if I survive the bullets.
In NYC Amendments mean nothing.
Yes because, why not its no real inconvenience and if they feel it's something that needs to be done let them get on with it, why cause a fuss and complain if you dint need to, the police are there for our protection and saftey why make their job more difficult.
I don't see how it's faster to consent to a search than to just go ahead and drive away.
troll troll troll your boat...
If a cop wants to search your car he can claim he smells smoke or he saw you shove something under the seat. Inventing probable cause is easy and the judge will always believe it if he claims he had cause to search. Might as well just consent, it will happen whether you like it or not. Just don't transport illegal stuff and you'll be fine.
Not without a warrant like Constitution says.
