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if a camry is not dependable then what is...

T2urtle

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Ok i'm not following my parents logic with this. My father had a 94 camry that he bought in 96 with say 20k on it. He drove it to about 135k and we sold it like last year. So in the 16 years of ownership and 100k+ miles of driving. He had a timing belt break on him. I replaced a igntion coil in the distubtor. He had 2 sets of tires replaced. Oil changes when he had the time normally about 5k. 2 batteries and 4 axles replaced, brakes done about 3 times. All motor mounts replaced. When we sold it, car had a lot of interior rattles, window motor worked when it wanted to and suspension was gone. It drove but felt like a tug boat.

All together i believe its was a GREAT car. Solid runner. Had he spent the small amount of money to keep it good it would still be here. We sold it because he felt it wasn't good anymore and plus i gave him my 98 maxima.

Now we have a 96 camry bought at 60k and is now at 120k. Same typical stuff. I did 2 axles on it, 2 brake jobs (one when i got the car and one at 100k). I got a set of tires for it. This summer i did a full tune up on the fluids, valve cover gasket and plug/wires. It does need a timing belt soon as well as front motor mount and suspension is kinda feeling like a tug boat. My parents want to sell this too because they deem it no dependable. I dont know what to say. the 96 camry is about 10 times better then the 94 we sold. I did take care of the 96 better because i didn't mind spending $100 on parts every couple of months to better the car.

They tell me to sell the camry and help them find a new car. My mother always wanted a CUV type of thing. I assume rav4/crv is right up her alley is what we will get. Should i just shut up and do what they are asking me or try to talk some sense into them.

The car isn't a bad car. With new tie rods/ball joints/ sway bar links/ maybe shocks and a timing belt it should be rock solid for another 100k. They dont want me working on the car. I guess they see it as a money pit. I would buy it but no need for the car. Car shows no sign of death to come. These things are easily 300k motors on just replacing oil
 
LOL, 3 lefts axles and 1 right axle... HAR HAR

Jesus christ, what were you guys DOING to that poor car? 😱 Not to mention trashing all the motor mounts!

My last Accord only had 1 axle replaced in 252,000 miles. YMMV 😉

But yeah, you current Camry should last just fine if you keep up with fixing things and don't let it snowball into an overwhelming mess. It won't be a money pit compared to a new car payment.
 
Nothing magical about a Camry I had a 94 Corsica I did a lot less work than that on it to over 210 Kmiles, however we do a fair bit of HW driving but probably under harsher conditions being in canada.
Parents want something new, just help them find something, good news is it should have good resale still.

I'm going to do that with my next car wife gets tired of them after about 5 yrs but I like to keep them 10. She also wants more luxury in the next one so I'll find a older upscale brand next time and dump it sooner. . . Luxury cars have the deepest depreciation so lots of good deals once they get 7-8 yrs old
 
They tell me to sell the camry and help them find a new car. My mother always wanted a CUV type of thing.

Maybe they really just want to drive something other than a Camry after all these years and are using "dependable" as an excuse? It would be a small thing to make your mother happy, so just get rid of it and get her that RAV4 or whatever.
 
multiple axles, brakes multiple times, broken timing belt ( lucky that's non interference i guess ), motor mounts - all in ~100K wow you guys beat the shit out of them.
 
Axles is the only thing that sounds out of line.
Some people think one repair makes a car unreliable.
I say it's a car, it's a mechanical device.. Big deal.
You're gonna have to be good to get them to budge. The only downfall of telling them to keep the car is when something goes wrong. They're gonna be bitchy as shit.
 
It sounds like it's been a pretty reliable car. While a good brand new car should give you a few good trouble free years in the long run it's probably going to give you as much if not more problems than your current one. That era of camry was pretty solid.
 
Not to mention trashing all the motor mounts!

The motor mounts on those cars are hydraulic and the rubber in them rot and dry out and leak just like struts or anything else of that nature.

Timing belt probably broke from lack of prior maintenance, OP only mentions one timing belt (only after it broke) in 135k miles. No surprise there.

Tires? Oil changes? These should never be mentioned, as they are required on any car.

Suspension gone? Again that's any car with 135k. For people who say otherwise, they just don't know any better because it happens gradually over time. It's one of those things you have no idea (unless severe) until you replace the struts and bushings and WOW it's like a Ferrari now!

Axles, probably torn CV boots that went unnoticed, and complete CVs for that car are like $50.
 
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They tell me to sell the camry and help them find a new car. My mother always wanted a CUV type of thing. I assume rav4/crv is right up her alley is what we will get. Should i just shut up and do what they are asking me or try to talk some sense into them.
Assuming that your parents are in a financial comfort zone, then it is possible that they have the 'new car bug' and simply want to reward themselves,
but are rationalizing that they need a new ride. Nothing wrong with that . . .
unless your inheritance is being jeopardized 😀
 
I would recommend actually doing the required maintenance if you want a "dependable" car...

Timing belt is scheduled for replacement every 60K on the 94 camry.
 
Yea sounds like you did not take care of the car.

Most cars today will hold up ok IF taken care of. You can take the best car in the world and if you don;t take care of it, it will also seem like junk.

Tell your parents to buy an old Chevy/GMC truck. At least they held up to people beating on them. They look and sound awful but they still run, just badly. 🙂
 
Assuming that your parents are in a financial comfort zone, then it is possible that they have the 'new car bug' and simply want to reward themselves,
but are rationalizing that they need a new ride. Nothing wrong with that . . .
unless your inheritance is being jeopardized 😀

I think you are on to something. I should look into that. Sadly i dont think they are very stable financial and they want a used CRV/Rav4. I guess i should shut up and do what they ask of me.


i guess i should try to make it sound a little better. First off, I dont know nor do i really keep track of my parent's car repairs. I check on them from time to time. They normally take it to get an oil change. Sometimes they tell me to.

the 4 axles. no the axles didn't break. It was mainly CV boots torn, I bought replacement axles with lifetime on them for $50 each. So why bother rebooting when i get rebuilt ones. I knew they were non-interference motors but i thought they did the belts already. The suspension being shot, its more of a loose steering wheel. Drivable and my parents dont care. When i drive it i hate it.

Honestly i think these cars are TANKS. Not much to look at nor powerful. Doesn't get me 30mpg but cheap to keep running. You guys saying wow at 4 axles, i guess you never lived in a POTHOLE filled city like chicago. Brakes are were and tear items, you can wait till it squeeks to replace them or you can replace them when they are low. Newer cars need rear brakes every 20-30k cause of traction control. I know the front motor mount dry rotted, i saw that but i guess parents went and replaced all 3.
 
Jesus christ, what were you guys DOING to that poor car? 😱 Not to mention trashing all the motor mounts!

Yeah, that too. OP, your family beat the hell out of that poor car. Potholes is a poor excuse. Pot-hole filled MA here, I've blown one front strut in the car's 12 year lifespan, and that was my fault.
 
the 4 axles. no the axles didn't break. It was mainly CV boots torn, I bought replacement axles with lifetime on them for $50 each. So why bother rebooting when i get rebuilt ones. I knew they were non-interference motors but i thought they did the belts already. The suspension being shot, its more of a loose steering wheel. Drivable and my parents dont care. When i drive it i hate it.

Probably tie rod ends, then...normal wear item after a while.
 
The idea is already in their mind. There is nothing you can say or do show them the car is reliable. Get them a new one and be done with.
 
keep that 96 camry. My mom bought one lightly used in 97, gave it to me in 2004, then i gave it back to my dad in 2007 w/ about 150k miles and the only thing we replaced were the motor mounts because of vibrations at idle. i swear, that car is nicer than the cobalts calibers, and g6's of last generation
 
Yeah, that too. OP, your family beat the hell out of that poor car. Potholes is a poor excuse. Pot-hole filled MA here, I've blown one front strut in the car's 12 year lifespan, and that was my fault.

Have you seen potholes in Chicago? I narrowly avoided one couple of weeks ago that was as deep as frigging wheel, had I not swerved I would have had to tow the car into the shop. Funnily, just yesterday I was watching report on TV how there were less potholes repaired this year in Chicago because winter has been so mild.... yeah...


To the OP, like one of the guys said up above, it looks like your parents are looking for an excuse to get a new car.
 
Have you seen potholes in Chicago? I narrowly avoided one couple of weeks ago that was as deep as frigging wheel, had I not swerved I would have had to tow the car into the shop. Funnily, just yesterday I was watching report on TV how there were less potholes repaired this year in Chicago because winter has been so mild.... yeah...


To the OP, like one of the guys said up above, it looks like your parents are looking for an excuse to get a new car.

Bent two rs4 reps in chicago last year. Beefy wheels, too...
 
Yeah, that too. OP, your family beat the hell out of that poor car. Potholes is a poor excuse. Pot-hole filled MA here, I've blown one front strut in the car's 12 year lifespan, and that was my fault.

you drive around chicago for a while. a couple people back me up.

I've been here all my life. Every summer they patch up a hole about 1/2 the size of a geo metro and the right after each winter it comes back a little bigger. Very hard to go around when the speed of traffic on the road is about 40mph.

You said you blown one strut and it was your fault. I dont see how motor mounts is a driver's fault if its been dry rotted. Please tell me how a driver can tear CV axles, the car does not have enough power to just tear the boot, uneven surfaces would most likely be the cause.

beating and not knowing how to care for a car is 2 different things. Ive seen plenty of cars with torn CV axles and the owners never replaced it nor cared. I'm not that type of guy. IF I see something broken and i can repair it at a reasonable price i will go ahead and do it. But yea i've looked into some rav4's today already. I gave in and told them i agreed with them.

Anyone have suggestions on the better years to get? Looking to pick up a CRV/rav4 like thing in the $8-10 range. Less gadgets the better.
 
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