If 5 guys surround you

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Leper Messiah

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depends on what state you're in IIRC. If you could prove that you were in mortal danger of your life, then you'd get off. Otherwise, it'd probably be 2nd degree murder.
 

Aimster

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No im just curious

a lot of people carry pocket knives around

Let's say 5 guys surround you and you feel as if you are about to get your ass kicked (not killed, but seriously hurt) and you stabbed them what would happen.


 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: Aimster
No im just curious

a lot of people carry pocket knives around

Let's say 5 guys surround you and you feel as if you are about to get your ass kicked (not killed, but seriously hurt) and you stabbed them what would happen.

The remaining four would still kick your butt and take your knife and then stab you.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: TuxDave
Originally posted by: Aimster
No im just curious

a lot of people carry pocket knives around

Let's say 5 guys surround you and you feel as if you are about to get your ass kicked (not killed, but seriously hurt) and you stabbed them what would happen.

The remaining four would still kick your butt and take your knife and then stab you.

Let's say that doesn't happen..
 

anxi80

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you would find matt dillon, he will give you money to go to an abandoned church and you will read 'gone with the wind' to pass the time until everything cools down.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: Aimster
killing one of them..

will you get charged with manslaugther or murder, etc?

yeah you're going to jail for assault with a deadly weapon. Most states have laws stating that you need to be defenind yourself to use the weapon. Otherwise you're bubba boytoy
 

slurmsmackenzie

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you and pony boy could always just borrow some cash from dallas, dye your hair blonde, and hide out in an abandoned old house.
 

pyonir

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Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie
you and pony boy could always just borrow some cash from dallas, dye your hair blonde, and hide out in an abandoned old house.

LMFAO!
 

mdchesne

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you'd go to court for 2nd degree murder. if the assaulters do not intent to kill or criple the assaultee, you just have to take it like a man and charge THEM with assault and battery ater you recover. if you kill one, you're in the wrong and sitting in the defendant's chair looking down the gavel of a judge seeing this all too many times
 

LuNoTiCK

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Originally posted by: mdchesne
you'd go to court for 2nd degree murder. if the assaulters do not intent to kill or criple the assaultee, you just have to take it like a man and charge THEM with assault and battery ater you recover. if you kill one, you're in the wrong and sitting in the defendant's chair looking down the gavel of a judge seeing this all too many times

Which is really BS. It's Self Defense. If 5 people are attacking someone, than they got what they deserve.
 

Zugzwang152

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Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Originally posted by: mdchesne
you'd go to court for 2nd degree murder. if the assaulters do not intent to kill or criple the assaultee, you just have to take it like a man and charge THEM with assault and battery ater you recover. if you kill one, you're in the wrong and sitting in the defendant's chair looking down the gavel of a judge seeing this all too many times

Which is really BS. It's Self Defense. If 5 people are attacking someone, than they got what they deserve.

pepper spray and/or tasers are better alternatives to a knife anyway.
 

mdchesne

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Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Originally posted by: mdchesne
you'd go to court for 2nd degree murder. if the assaulters do not intent to kill or criple the assaultee, you just have to take it like a man and charge THEM with assault and battery ater you recover. if you kill one, you're in the wrong and sitting in the defendant's chair looking down the gavel of a judge seeing this all too many times

Which is really BS. It's Self Defense. If 5 people are attacking someone, than they got what they deserve.

not to kill them in self defense. there are limits to how much you can defend yourself without becoming the attacker
 

mdchesne

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for example, say you and 4 buddies shove me into a corner. You're only going to pound the crap out of me, but i decide to take your view on self defense and pull out a thompson and mow you all down. seem realistic now?

OR

I could whip out a billy club and it'd be more of a fair fight then.
non-lethal force to repel a non-lethal attack
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: Zugzwang152


pepper spray and/or tasers are better alternatives to a knife anyway.

A firearm weilded by someone with proper training and experience is far better than pepper spray and electrical things.

Give me something that can shoot a dart that can deliver a megajoule without wires and that may change.

 

bradruth

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Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Originally posted by: mdchesne
you'd go to court for 2nd degree murder. if the assaulters do not intent to kill or criple the assaultee, you just have to take it like a man and charge THEM with assault and battery ater you recover. if you kill one, you're in the wrong and sitting in the defendant's chair looking down the gavel of a judge seeing this all too many times

Which is really BS. It's Self Defense. If 5 people are attacking someone, than they got what they deserve.

pepper spray and/or tasers are better alternatives to a knife anyway.

There's only one Taser model authorized for civilian carry and you could only take one guy down with it and only for 30 seconds.
 
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Sounds like my situation. I was surrounded by 5 guys. My mom was with me. She was scared to death. One of them tried to sucker punch/bitchslap or something and did it a few times, and then I just went full out smacked him square in the face and he fell back. Of course by then I was dead because the other 4 guys jumped me and I was fvcked. I grabbed my mom and I ran.. except there were a billion other ppl around me so we couldn't really run.

I came back with my eye scratched (contacts) and my back aching and probably a few bruises here or there, but yea...
 

2cpuminimum

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depends on how good your lawyer is.

FTW

If it was on camera that they attacked you first, you would probably not be charged in criminal court except perhaps for assault with a deadly weapon, unless they started to run away and you pressed the attack, in which case you'd be charged with first degree murder. OTOH, even if you suffer no criminal charges, you would inevitably be sued for wrongful death by the family of your assailant.
 

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My son was at a bar and five guys jumped him and it all on camera, I know he can get them for assault and battery , but can he turn around and sue , because he could not go to work and lost his job.

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