Idiot of the day award goes to

Genx87

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http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...terror.guns/index.html

In a statement Monday, Lautenberg said, "this new report is proof positive that known and suspected terrorists are exploiting a major loophole in our law, threatening our families and our communities. This 'terror gap' has been open too long, and our national security demands that we shut it down."

The statement said Lautenberg is introducing legislation that would give the U.S. attorney general "authority to stop the sale of guns or explosives to terrorists."

Followed by

The GAO notes that being on a terrorist watch list does not mean that someone is involved in any terrorist activity.

That list is so fucking stupid anyways. How many millions are on it? Anybody who speaks out against the govt gets tossed on the list.

That said, what that senator said is beyond stupid and fails basic logic. Being stuck on a list now equals terrorist that cant excercise their 2nd amendment regardless if one doesnt commit a crime in his book.


 
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Same ass clown that got a ton of cops and military fired.

Not that some didn't deserve it, but blanket bans are retarded.
 

jackschmittusa

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Many of the people on the list are not aware that they are. The government doesn't send them a letter. Many are on the list in error, or for BS reasons. There is no practical way for the vast majority of those on the list to challenge their listing. Is the government going to allow access to the list to the thousands of gun dealers in the country?

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? How can you punish people or curtail their rights when they have never been charged with a crime, let alone convicted?

This kind of crap is about as un-American as you can get.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Many of the people on the list are not aware that they are. The government doesn't send them a letter. Many are on the list in error, or for BS reasons. There is no practical way for the vast majority of those on the list to challenge their listing. Is the government going to allow access to the list to the thousands of gun dealers in the country?

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? How can you punish people or curtail their rights when they have never been charged with a crime, let alone convicted?

This kind of crap is about as REPUBLICAN as you can get.
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BoberFett

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Many of the people on the list are not aware that they are. The government doesn't send them a letter. Many are on the list in error, or for BS reasons. There is no practical way for the vast majority of those on the list to challenge their listing. Is the government going to allow access to the list to the thousands of gun dealers in the country?

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? How can you punish people or curtail their rights when they have never been charged with a crime, let alone convicted?

This kind of crap is about as REPUBLICAN as you can get.
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Lautenberg is a Democrat, you simpleton.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Many of the people on the list are not aware that they are. The government doesn't send them a letter. Many are on the list in error, or for BS reasons. There is no practical way for the vast majority of those on the list to challenge their listing. Is the government going to allow access to the list to the thousands of gun dealers in the country?

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? How can you punish people or curtail their rights when they have never been charged with a crime, let alone convicted?

This kind of crap is about as REPUBLICAN as you can get.
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Yeah, I'm sure Obama is getting rid of the list. It's a high priority I'm sure.
 

Fear No Evil

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I thought for sure this thread was going to be about Techs. But I suppose Techs would win it every day. This is more like 2nd place but we just assume Techs will be #1 every day.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: manowar821
then what the FUCK is the point of the terror watch list?

fascismlol

A while back, 60 Minutes did a show on the watch list. The gist of it was that anyone who is a REAL terrorist wouldn't be on the watch list, because that would let the terrorists know they have been compromised. So essentially the list is pointless.
 

Sacrilege

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Yet if this was 5 years ago, and some Republicans were proposing utilizing a tool in The Global War on Terror (GWOT) (The Long War), and senile Democrat Lautenberg was opposing it, you'd be shouting him down as an un-American-commie Islamo-Fascist-sympathizing class-of-cultures-denying Keffiyeh-wearing underpants-soiling-dirty-bomber.

Why do you hate America?

We were attacked on September 11th, and everything changed. This list helps to keep us safe from people who hate our freedoms.

Why do you hate our men and women in uniform?

The founding fathers would have rounded up people who are against a terrorist list, lined them up against a wall and shot them for treason.

We have to make sacrifices in this time of war, and we should be ready to give up a few freedoms to stay safe from those who hate our way of life.

The Constitution is not a death pact.

If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear and are not on the list.
 

DonaldC

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Many of the people on the list are not aware that they are. The government doesn't send them a letter. Many are on the list in error, or for BS reasons. There is no practical way for the vast majority of those on the list to challenge their listing. Is the government going to allow access to the list to the thousands of gun dealers in the country?

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? How can you punish people or curtail their rights when they have never been charged with a crime, let alone convicted?

This kind of crap is about as REPUBLICAN as you can get.
Fixed for accuracy.

Lautenberg is a Democrat, you simpleton.

Now, now. You need to cut techs some slack, he is still recovering from his local Home Depot closing before checking with him 1st.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Many of the people on the list are not aware that they are. The government doesn't send them a letter. Many are on the list in error, or for BS reasons. There is no practical way for the vast majority of those on the list to challenge their listing. Is the government going to allow access to the list to the thousands of gun dealers in the country?

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? How can you punish people or curtail their rights when they have never been charged with a crime, let alone convicted?

This kind of crap is about as REPUBLICAN as you can get.
Fixed for accuracy.

Lautenberg is a Democrat, you simpleton.

ouch.
 

TruePaige

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Oct 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: Sacrilege
Yet if this was 5 years ago, and some Republicans were proposing utilizing a tool in The Global War on Terror (GWOT) (The Long War), and senile Democrat Lautenberg was opposing it, you'd be shouting him down as an un-American-commie Islamo-Fascist-sympathizing class-of-cultures-denying Keffiyeh-wearing underpants-soiling-dirty-bomber.

Why do you hate America?

We were attacked on September 11th, and everything changed. This list helps to keep us safe from people who hate our freedoms.

Why do you hate our men and women in uniform?

The founding fathers would have rounded up people who are against a terrorist list, lined them up against a wall and shot them for treason.

We have to make sacrifices in this time of war, and we should be ready to give up a few freedoms to stay safe from those who hate our way of life.

The Constitution is not a death pact.

If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear and are not on the list.

You owe me a new sarcasm meter.

Meter breaking bastard.
 

fallout man

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Originally posted by: Sacrilege
Yet if this was 5 years ago, and some Republicans were proposing utilizing a tool in The Global War on Terror (GWOT) (The Long War), and senile Democrat Lautenberg was opposing it, you'd be shouting him down as an un-American-commie Islamo-Fascist-sympathizing class-of-cultures-denying Keffiyeh-wearing underpants-soiling-dirty-bomber.

Why do you hate America?

We were attacked on September 11th, and everything changed. This list helps to keep us safe from people who hate our freedoms.

Why do you hate our men and women in uniform?

The founding fathers would have rounded up people who are against a terrorist list, lined them up against a wall and shot them for treason.

We have to make sacrifices in this time of war, and we should be ready to give up a few freedoms to stay safe from those who hate our way of life.

The Constitution is not a death pact.

If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear and are not on the list.

...and this. :thumbsup:
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Freedom isn't free. If you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about, Genx? In a post-9/11 world, we can't just let TERRORISTS buy GUNS and EXPLOSIVES. They hate our freedom, Genx87. They want us all to die because we're all really free here, in this freedom-filled palace of freedom we call America.

Why do you hate America, Genx87? Do you want TERRORISTS to be able to freely obtain GUNS and EXPLOSIVES?
 

MotF Bane

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Dec 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Many of the people on the list are not aware that they are. The government doesn't send them a letter. Many are on the list in error, or for BS reasons. There is no practical way for the vast majority of those on the list to challenge their listing. Is the government going to allow access to the list to the thousands of gun dealers in the country?

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? How can you punish people or curtail their rights when they have never been charged with a crime, let alone convicted?

This kind of crap is about as REPUBLICAN as you can get.
Fixed for accuracy.

LOL. Yeah, you clearly take the idiot award.
 

MotF Bane

No Lifer
Dec 22, 2006
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Originally posted by: Sacrilege
Yet if this was 5 years ago, and some Republicans were proposing utilizing a tool in The Global War on Terror (GWOT) (The Long War), and senile Democrat Lautenberg was opposing it, you'd be shouting him down as an un-American-commie Islamo-Fascist-sympathizing class-of-cultures-denying Keffiyeh-wearing underpants-soiling-dirty-bomber.

Why do you hate America?

We were attacked on September 11th, and everything changed. This list helps to keep us safe from people who hate our freedoms.

Why do you hate our men and women in uniform?

The founding fathers would have rounded up people who are against a terrorist list, lined them up against a wall and shot them for treason.

We have to make sacrifices in this time of war, and we should be ready to give up a few freedoms to stay safe from those who hate our way of life.

The Constitution is not a death pact.

If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear and are not on the list.

My sarcasm meter just exploded.
 

themusgrat

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Nov 2, 2005
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Originally posted by: techs
This kind of crap is about as REPUBLICAN as you can get.
Because Republicans clearly hate firearms and blame them for the plethora of terrorist attacks in America committed with guns and why don't we just ban guns all together. OH WAIT GIAS.
 

Skitzer

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Many of the people on the list are not aware that they are. The government doesn't send them a letter. Many are on the list in error, or for BS reasons. There is no practical way for the vast majority of those on the list to challenge their listing. Is the government going to allow access to the list to the thousands of gun dealers in the country?

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? How can you punish people or curtail their rights when they have never been charged with a crime, let alone convicted?

This kind of crap is about as REPUBLICAN as you can get.
Fixed for accuracy.

Lautenberg is a Democrat, you simpleton.

Techs=Powned
I'm sure he doesn't even realize how stupid his post makes him look either.
 

EXman

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Jul 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Many of the people on the list are not aware that they are. The government doesn't send them a letter. Many are on the list in error, or for BS reasons. There is no practical way for the vast majority of those on the list to challenge their listing. Is the government going to allow access to the list to the thousands of gun dealers in the country?

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? How can you punish people or curtail their rights when they have never been charged with a crime, let alone convicted?

This kind of crap is about as REPUBLICAN as you can get.
I'm a partisan hack!

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