Ideas to defeat Microsoft ... (Not a bashing thread !)

[av1998]

For those who feel that Microsoft is taking control over too much of our computing and internet life .....

Here is my contribution to some possible ways against the mighty MS:

The root of the problem lies in the fact that almost everybody's PC runs the Windows OS platform. Therefore, if AOL Time Warner or IBM or Apple wishes to come out as winners ..... some form of collaboration will need to happen and happen fast. First order of business is to adopt an alternative OS, whether it be MacOS or Linux, whichever works the best for household consumers and enterprise. Then, the next step is to side-step Microsoft's productivity tools by adopting an alternative to MS Office, such as Corel. If these 2 steps are successful, half the battle is won. Finally, in order to curb Microsoft's initiative to control the internet with MSN and .Net, a few of the web's biggest entities will need to join forces to integrate features of MSN and .Net for the end-users. Another area that Microsoft seems to pose some threat is in wireless and handheld computing. Palm needs to do everything possible to maintain their lead by making PalmOS more powerful than the PocketPC platform feature-for-feature.

 

[schoolsucks]

What is .Net?

 

[TuffGuy]

sounds simple. do it.

 

[venk]

The way to beat Microsoft...


Make an OS That

1)Runs Todays Windows software
2)Doesnt crash When you blink at it
3)User Friendly


My crack staff at venk LLC is hammering away at it and it should be done by the 25th century

 

[kingz]

.NET is Microsoft's plan to take over everything, and I mean everything about the internet. The way its designed, the way its hosted, the way its accessed...just about anything you can think of. For example, Visual Studios .NET for all web programming.

On a side note, Microsoft just made a deal with AOL. MS will include AOL 6.0 in XP, in exchange, AOL will use Internet Explorer (even though they own Netscape).

http://www.msnbc.com/news/578362.asp

 

[thraashman]

Screw defeating MS, I wanna defeat Linux. All these Linux geeks piss me off. Talk about people who don't understand the concept of social interaction.

 

[Talon]

schoolsucks,

http://www.microsoft.com/net/default.asp

 

[Scarpozzi]

This is an outlandish idea, but only because the market is already saturated. You see, there are too many computers in the government and everywhere else that use Microsoft products and have purchased licenses. These licenses will be used until the software is too obsolete. If there is a chance that funding comes along and a new version is purchased, it has to be completely compatible with the rest of the company/organization. So, I highly doubt it'll be easy to push Microsoft aside with a couple of ideas. The best way to push them out of the way is to create a product that revolutionizes the industry... Windows did that, but only because PCs were "clonable". Things work in cycles and Linux is getting a foothold in the industry as new companies like Mandrake and Redhat battle amongst themselves to sell their shelf versions to network administrators and developers. It'll just take time.

 

[Soccerman]

2)Doesnt crash When you blink at it

done and done...

done a WHILE ago..

All these Linux geeks piss me off. Talk about people who don't understand the concept of social interaction.

WTF? how does that piss you off? you have too much time on your hands (or you need to think about other things), worrying about people who are quite possibly alot more influential and smarter then you..

 

[Kilgor]

If you don't like it don't buy it, seems simple enough.

 

You can't defeat M$, they have too much money.

 

[mithrandir2001]

At least Microsoft is an American corporation and the dollars (mostly) stay here. I fear a weakened Microsoft would give a foreign corporation a chance to take over the market.

 

[MrCraphead]

LOL!!! A lot easier said than done.

 

[potz]

BeOS sure looks nice. Too bad no one wants to make commercial apps for it cuz no one has it, and no one has it cuz there's no commercial apps for it. Typical chicken and egg. Now we can just hope that Linux won't be such a pain in the arse to configure, so newbies can use it too. That will be the day Microsoft dies.

 

[amdforlife]

umm....aol might make an os. maybe that'll surprise us all and be the best OS of all time...

 

[mztykal]

When AOL makes a OS we're all in for it! All the AOL idiots will take over the world! :Q

 

[pulpp]

<< For those who feel that Microsoft is taking control over too much of our computing and internet life .....

Here is my contribution to some possible ways against the mighty MS:

The root of the problem lies in the fact that almost everybody's PC runs the Windows OS platform. Therefore, if AOL Time Warner or IBM or Apple wishes to come out as winners ..... some form of collaboration will need to happen and happen fast. First order of business is to adopt an alternative OS, whether it be MacOS or Linux, whichever works the best for household consumers and enterprise. Then, the next step is to side-step Microsoft's productivity tools by adopting an alternative to MS Office, such as Corel. If these 2 steps are successful, half the battle is won. Finally, in order to curb Microsoft's initiative to control the internet with MSN and .Net, a few of the web's biggest entities will need to join forces to integrate features of MSN and .Net for the end-users. Another area that Microsoft seems to pose some threat is in wireless and handheld computing. Palm needs to do everything possible to maintain their lead by making PalmOS more powerful than the PocketPC platform feature-for-feature. >>



sigh, doesnt bashing and anti-MS crap ever get old?

blahhhhhhhhh.......

 

[Belegost]

I'm with Mithrandir; MS may not be the best company, but it is a strong domestic company. I actually think what will kill MS in the end is some countries treating copyrights as though they were toilet paper. Without the ability to protect their intellectual rights abroad, MS will slowly be devoured as the rest of the world catches up with the U.S. in computer tech. America has fallen behind as a manufacturing power, we're still good for supplying natural resources, but those are cheap, and the jobs generally menial. Our intellectual resources are the one place where we have excelled, by having some of the best scientists and engineers in the world. Unfortunately, intellectual property is the most easily stolen, and since many other countries are quite willing to use underhanded methods to gain an advantage, we will lose. In time we will end up like Spain, or Britain, a mere shell of the economic power we were. To delay that we need to support those companies that have found a way to capitalize on our intellectual property, and sell it profitably, MS is one of the most successful at doing that, even abroad.

 

[Ameesh]

you linux freaks are paranoid. you windows people who dont like ms, use lotus and corel see how well you like it. in either case both groups are stupid. if youre a programmer you would understand how incredibly awesome and ambitious .NET is.


Soccerman: why dont you post your usage logs and well all see why linux is soo stable, its because you probably just surf the net and nothing else.

 

[breathesomesteak]

av, the only thing you failed to answer is the question why?

why?

you feel microsoft has too much control... well you don't have to purchase windows. Linux is free. Why do you need a large corporation to release a distribution when there are already dozens?

Is it because you need someone to hold your hand with drivers and easy to follow graphical installation screens? Something that very few offer.. and something that microsoft has just happened to nail down cold?

Face it, you are just anti capitalism. You don't like what microsoft is. A great big powerful company with a very powerful set of Operating systems and applications.

Like I said earlier, you don't have to run windows.

 

[breathesomesteak]

soccerman kde2 is the first stable x windows I've used.. and I'm still seeing issues with it everyday.. and gnome is a lost cause.

linux wasn't designed to go graphical.. what mandrake has done can be considered revolutionary and retarded at the same time.

 

[Ameesh]

<< soccerman kde2 is the first stable x windows I've used.. and I'm still seeing issues with it everyday.. and gnome is a lost cause.

linux wasn't designed to go graphical.. what mandrake has done can be considered revolutionary and retarded at the same time. >>



i agree gnome is a piece of $hit

 

[MojoJojo]

Accept Microsoft Windows for what it is.
It may not be your dream OS but I think it is the best OS out there.
Before the flaming starts, realize that I say this for a few different reasons.

1. Everyone develops for Windows.
2. My Windows 2000 MCSE certification
3. No Windows = crappy game support
4. Drivers, drivers, drivers
And last but not least....
5. My Windows 2000 MCSE certification


Now get out there and buy Micro$oft products.
I need some job security.

BTW-

Yes I've used the alternative Operating Systems.
When I realized that I wanted to use my computer with all my programs the choice wasn't real hard.

Let the flaming begin!

 

[EvanFerguson]

haha no

 

[av1998]

breathesomesteak: I respect your response because it comes with tackiness and class. Here is my answer to your question why ...

Microsoft is indeed a good company run by very strong executives. I am not denying that. The reason I started this thread is NOT to bash. Nor do I expect the other responders to write nasty stuff such as calling other people idiots and so on and so forth. If you are tempted to voice your opinions in a rude way, please stop and move on to the next thread.

As the title implies, and as my post implies, this thread is about ideas and about being creative. Yes, I am referring to capitalism and about suggesting ideas so that other companies can be competitive. Those of you who talked trash probably do not understand the definition of 'capitalism' in the first place, so I won't even waste my time on you.

Capitalism works when innovation and the ability to compete come together. And allow the marketplace to decide what to buy and what to use. Once again, stupid comments such as 'If you don't like MS, don't buy MS' does not contribute as being ideas at all. So, if you have nothing constructive to say, please go increase your postings somewhere else.

Now, in essence, I know it is not as easy as it sounds. But on the other hand, companies such as Apple, AOL Time Warner, IBM are companies that are capable of making those ideas come true. Again, I am not suggesting you and I to accomplish these ideas. I am speaking of companies who are in the business and who are hoping to compete effectively. So, please ..... intellectual property issues will not be sacrificed if another American company becomes successful, my friends.

With that in mind, I hope that the rest of this thread becomes more civilized and less of the rudeness or nasty words.