Question IDE to SATA converter board very bad performance

[SuperFurryTheAwesome]

i am newbie in the forum and sorry for my bad english

So hi my problem is that i have a ide to sata converter board under Windows 10 Pro but the performance is slow as hell 4Mb/s max of read and write i know i use like old ass hdds but they are faster than this and more problem is that when i am copying data from them they go down to 0bytes and no is not a sector problem and later it goes slowly to 702kb/s stops and then again 3Mb/s of copying the data is not corrupted is perfectly readible and makes a 22minutes copy into hours copy i have in AHCI my system so i dont know how to fix this

Setup
Windows 10 Pro
Asus Prime a320m-k
Amd Ryzen 3 2200g
GTX1050
Chispet: AMD A320

 

[VirtualLarry]

Well, I have used those converters, in an old P4 IDE mobo rig, to fit a newer SATA HDD onto it, looks like the same converter that I used, they are bi-directional, still have some of them somewhere, got them for a couple of bucks a piece in qty a long time ago.

Anyways, that rig, maxed out at basically 33MB/sec, ATA-33 protocol at best. Not UDMA-100 or UDMA-133. So it was a bottleneck, of sorts. (I don't know what the host supported as max, but I think it should have been ATA-100. ATA-33 was back on the 440BX Pentium II chipsets.)

Since your drive appears to be going slower than that, and at times down to essentially zero MB/s transfers, I am more akin to suspect either a bad converter board, or a bad drive. (Most likely, bad drive.) Remember, "bad drives" don't always outright fail, sometimes they just slow WAY down, before they actually stop working.

So I would back up anything on that drive that you want to save, and put it on the junk heap.

It could be software, though. Did you install the AMD AHCI/ATA drivers? If so, consider installing the Microsoft IDE and AHCI driver(s) instead. The MS ones tend to be more compatible, and the AMD ones more "quirky".

It could also happen, if you have BOTH Norton and McAfee A/V software installed. (Although, Malwarebytes and a single A/V should be OK.)

Edit: And for gosh sakes, spend the $20 USD to get a 120GB SATA SSD for your OS. You've got a decent, modern, Ryzen rig. Why slum around with an IDE HDD that old?

 

[SuperFurryTheAwesome]

Well yes i have a ssd (ADATA SU650 120gb) on my system and actually i was getting out data from my old noisy fujitsu 10gb drive and 40gb seagate still i am planing using it on a dvd burner thats ide but still i use ide from my ps2 hard drive to trasfer games and using those ide hard drives for VMs the thing is that actually happends on the two drivers so who knows i haved a red one before with a maxtor drive ide to sata but that time i haved windows 7 and a AMD A68H chispet and it worked to 5.41mb/s and when i was lucky it will go up to 33mb/s idk if this tiny boards have problems detecting ATA-133 or what (the box says it was ATA-133 compatible) and i dont even know if i am using amd drivers i just look and i see two "Standard SATA AHCI Controller"

 

[VirtualLarry]

Givehn the age of the drives, I would sijmply chalk it up to old, potehntially-failihng drives. Bujt it coujld be those little adapters, they gehnemrally have crappy solder joihnmts too.

Sorry, spilled tea ohnm jy keyboard.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Well yes i have a ssd (ADATA SU650 120gb) on my system and actually i was getting out data from my old noisy fujitsu 10gb drive and 40gb seagate still i am planing using it on a dvd burner thats ide but still i use ide from my ps2 hard drive to trasfer games and using those ide hard drives for VMs the thing is that actually happends on the two drivers so who knows i haved a red one before with a maxtor drive ide to sata but that time i haved windows 7 and a AMD A68H chispet and it worked to 5.41mb/s and when i was lucky it will go up to 33mb/s idk if this tiny boards have problems detecting ATA-133 or what (the box says it was ATA-133 compatible) and i dont even know if i am using amd drivers i just look and i see two "Standard SATA AHCI Controller"

(IDE and (P)ATA can be used interchangeably. SATA is just a serial ATA connection)

That kind of IDE-to-SATA adaptor tends to be spotty with compatibility. Native IDE controllers are much better in that regard, but more expensive. If you're using the "Standard SATA AHCI driver", you're using the MS one. Which you should since the MS driver has the widest compatibility, and you're using a bridge chip on top. The AMD driver identifies as "AMD SATA Controller".

I'd say those old HDDs are the main issue with slow transfer rates. IDE always works at the lowest common denominator. So if you have an old HDD that only supports f.x. ATA-33 that's what the connection will run at. You should never expect anything like theoretical speed, that's just marketing.

Old HDD are -slow-*, particularly with non-sequential transfers, and you're using a bridge chip. Which comes with some overhead (unavoidable). So it's possible what you're seeing is perfectly normal performance. Or it could be dropping to a basic PIO connection, because of compatibility issues. PIO mode (Programmed Input/Output) is almost (anything slower is pre-ATA) the slowest mode you can connect a HDD at. At a whopping 3.3MB/s (16.7 for Mode4). You can use various utilities (f.x. Aida64, HWinfo) to check what transfer mode the HDDs are actually using.

If you're only using it to get data off, I wouldn't worry too much if the data is good.

...and you may want to consider a newer DVD drive. Both internal SATA and external USB ones are dirt cheap.

*you shouldn't expect more then ~500KB/s for non-sequential transfers. Though it depends on rotation rate.

 

[SuperFurryTheAwesome]

Well my seagate 40gb just has 2 years in power on count and is all good sectors yeah is old but something i fidn strange too its that the converter just works with sata 1 of the 4 ports if i plug on the other ones windows goes "HDD Not initializated" but with the 1 dosent do that i really think is not the hard drive

 

[Shmee]

I would ditch the old HDDs and get a modern 1 TB for storage. Would recommend a WD blue. Basically anything IDE should probably be tossed, just too old.

 

[mikeymikec]

Well my seagate 40gb just has 2 years in power on count and is all good sectors yeah is old but something i fidn strange too its that the converter just works with sata 1 of the 4 ports if i plug on the other ones windows goes "HDD Not initializated" but with the 1 dosent do that i really think is not the hard drive

I have a USB3 docking bay that has inputs for IDE 2.5" and 3.5" as well as SATA.
https://www.icydock.com/goods.php?id=130

I don't know if it is sold any more.