I'd like to learn a programming language

[thatguyant]

I've always been fascinated by computers and have tinkered with my hardware, but I've never really gotten into the programming side. I think I'd just like to start exploring to learn more about it. Who knows, maybe it'll turn out to be something I'm good at.

Does anyone have any suggestions about what language to start with? I remember programing in scheme back in high school, but that's been a long time. Which languages are most common, and where should a beginner start?

 

[maximus maximus]

java / c / c++

 

[Aikouka]

x86 ASM

EDIT: Added the ISA.

 

[Looney]

Ruby

 

[bignateyk]

Pascal FTW

 

[goatjc]

cout >> "Hello World.";

It's been about 6 years since I've touched programming, but in college they started us on C++

 

[thatguyant]

Is there any particular reason to choose one language over another? Do they share any common structure or anything like that. This would be more of a hobby for now, but I do want to learn something meaningful.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: goatjc
cout >> "Hello World.";

It's been about 6 years since I've touched programming, but in college they started us on C++

haha, its cout<<"Hello Error!";

C++ is my vote too.

 

[DougK62]

A beginner should start with taking classes that will teach concepts. They'll probably start you on a Java/C/C++. I guess you could skip the basics if you just wanted to hack something together, but you won't become a good programmer.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: goatjc
cout << "Hello World.";

It's been about 6 years since I've touched programming, but in college they started us on C++

Fixed ... and yes, it shows that it's been 6 years

I would say do some web stuff ... php w/some HTML. I always thought scripting was pretty simple to learn cause you get instant feedback as to where your problem is.

 

[DaShen]

Start with Pascal, then C, Then C++

Or if you think Pascal is too easy, jump straight to C++

 

[thatguyant]

Originally posted by: DougK62
A beginner should start with taking classes that will teach concepts. They'll probably start you on a Java/C/C++. I guess you could skip the basics if you just wanted to hack something together, but you won't become a good programmer.

Unfortunately I don't have the time right now to take classes because I already have a job. I just was looking at getting into it on my spare time because I've been interested in a long time. I should've taken some in college, but I was intimidated by it. Would anyone recommend any self taught books?

 

[esun]

If you want immediate productivity, then a scripting language like Perl, Python, or Ruby is the way to go. If you want a nice theoretical start with a solid textbook that's free, use Scheme and check out SICP (Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs): http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/

That's the introductory course at MIT, UC Berkeley, and I'm sure a number of other universities. You can also go a more traditional route and try C/C++ or Java, but honestly they won't be as immediately useful as the scripting languages and are harder to learn in general. Don't learn Assembly first unless you hate yourself.

EDIT: I wouldn't recommend PHP, which others have suggested. It serves a very specific purpose and in that role it relies heavily on knowledge of HTML and CGI, which is bad if you just want to learn programming. Again, better general-purpose scripting languages are Perl, Python, and Ruby.

 

[Crono]

Another vote for C++.
C++ for dummies is a good book that even comes with a compiler (though you can download it for free, anyways).

 

[MrPickins]

If you still need to learn basic programming concepts, I vote Pascal, then follow it up with c++

C wasn't written to be friendly for beginners.

 

[fLum0x]

Originally posted by: thatguyant
I've always been fascinated by computers and have tinkered with my hardware, but I've never really gotten into the programming side. I think I'd just like to start exploring to learn more about it. Who knows, maybe it'll turn out to be something I'm good at.

Does anyone have any suggestions about what language to start with? I remember programing in scheme back in high school, but that's been a long time. Which languages are most common, and where should a beginner start?

honestly, there are about 5-10 languages you could learn first and then from there, anything is MUCH easier. I started with VB6 in college and once you get the concepts down...it is easy. I learned Java very quickly and I know enough to edit pretty much anything. Writing from scratch is a whole different beast It really depends on what you want to do though. If you are just doing small little business needs... .NET would work fine. If you want more robust, look to Java or C or C++. If you want basically the end all be all right out of the gates, go for C++

 

[mundane]

Originally posted by: esun
If you want immediate productivity, then a scripting language like Perl, Python, or Ruby is the way to go. If you want a nice theoretical start with a solid textbook that's free, use Scheme and check out SICP (Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs): http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/

That's the introductory course at MIT, UC Berkeley, and I'm sure a number of other universities. You can also go a more traditional route and try C/C++ or Java, but honestly they won't be as immediately useful as the scripting languages and are harder to learn in general. Don't learn Assembly first unless you hate yourself.

Mmmmmmm ..... python. Incredibly easy to use. If you want to do some web programming, checkout Ruby on Rails - also very easy to get into.

As for online texts, Bruce Eckel has a number available for C/C++/Java.

 

[mugs]

That's a tough question. Like DougK62 said, you really want to learn the concepts first, and the way to do that without having to do a lot of stuff you don't actually understand is to use C or C++. A lot of schools start with Java now, but that requires you to jump right into classes without knowing anything about anything.

Eventually you'll want to move to something like C#, but not until you have a solid understanding of programming fundamentals.

 

[NuclearNed]

If you want to be get in on the bleeding edge of current technology, give MS Visual COBOL++ a shot.

 

[Rockinacoustic]

They're starting us off on Python in my Intro C.S. class. I've hard it's an easier Java.

 

[thatguyant]

Thanks for all the input guys. So it seems like there's two schools of thought. Starting with the basics and learning theory which would go the C or C++ route, or jumping into a scripting language like Perl, Python, or Java.

Would starting conceptually allow me to pick up other languages easier? Or does each language make you start all over again about how you think out code?

 

[irishScott]

Java is nearly identical to C++ and C in syntax, it just does more automatically for you (garbage collection and such). I'd start with Java to learn the basics, and then transition to C++ when you want to get more in-depth. (ie: Into direct memory management and whatnot).

Python is a very versatile language with a lot of advantages, but the syntax is completely different from C/C++/Java.

 

[Malak]

Visual Basic, IMO, is the easiest one to start with. Plus you can be making utilities you'd actually use fairly quickly. Clarion is the easiest database language to learn.

 

[lozina]

C#/Java

fairly easy to learn and the most likely to get you a job

 

[Farmer]

I second Scheme. 6.001 at MIT is a Scheme-based class, which is what every CS major takes, so there's gotta be a good reason. (Then again, the non-electric engineering courses teach mostly Java) Python is another one to look at.