I'd just like to clear some things up... Copper Athlon's don't exist!

[Zoson]

I've read, at http://athlonoc.com that there is no such thing as a "copper interconnected" Athlon. Blue die or green die, it does not matter, both are aluminum. I didn't believe this at first, so I called up AMD from their support # on their website (please do before flaming me) and they verified this. The blue die simply means that it's from the Dresden plant.
As to why these would overclock better? I have no idea, but the guy on athlonoc.com says it's probably because they're made with the newer, better machines at the Dresden facility.
-Zoson

 

[compuwiz1]

Higher quality fabs usually produce better yields. Blue are from the Dresden plant, but about the no copper part, I don't know if I even believe the support guy.

Blue or Green does not always make one over the other a good overclocker. The batch of 1GHz blue babies I had last week saw several at over 1.3GHz. Those were week 48. The one I have now, which are week 51 are not faring as well. So far Max is 1280.

 

[DaddyG]

Zoson,

Don't think you were given the straight scoop !!. The Dresden plant uses copper-interconnects. Austin uses Aluminum. Since the chip color is nothing more that a polish, its not that easy to tell the plant of fabrication. In the early days, Dresden used Blue exclusively and Austin used Green, but over time, Austin has used blue, purple, green and reddish tints.

 

[pm]

The support guy is wrong about copper.

See this press release here



<< AMD announced today that it has commenced commercial shipments of AMD Athlon processors with performance-enhancing cache memory manufactured with 180-nanometer (0.18-micron) copper interconnect technology from its newest &quot;megafab,&quot; Fab 30 in Dresden, Germany. >>



The irony of having an Intel employee correcting an AMD support person about an AMD product by using an AMD press release...

 

[Dulanic]

Hes right Dresden is a copper fab plant.

 

[GT1999]

pm is the man! I have a 1.1GHz Blue core thunderbird, and it's a beauty. Of course, copper as well.

 

[Zoson]

go read it on athlonoc.com and tell that to the guy who wrote the article.
-Zoson

 

[GT1999]

Hrmmm, I wonder who I should trust.. the guys at AthlonOC.com or the a link from AMD.com. This is a no brainer.

 

[Renob]

There full of it I just cut open a gig chip and it was copper inside...........

 

[kylebisme]

thats realy not funny!

 

[TheCorm]

Shocking, positively shocking..

Where do they make the durons?? (alu connects right?)

Corm

 

[Mem]

Zoson,I think you can trust AMD afterall they do make them so they should know,as for the support guy well I bet he was a junior assistant, ask any senior AMD engineer &amp; you will get the right answer.

 

[etech]

Zoson, it would be better if you did a little more research before posting inaccurate and misleading information. It is common knowledge that the Dresden fab is using copper interconnects.

It is Intel that does not currently use copper interconnects, coppermine name nonwithstanding.

 

[Zoson]

It's what I thought too, dresden uses copper, austin doesn't... but I read it on athlon oc, and i called AMD's support # and it was confirmed... go read the article on athlonoc.com
-Zoson

 

[compuwiz1]

Some hardware sites care more about revenue, than accuracy. :Q

 

[da loser]

are all the layers of the interconnects using copper? or just the top ones?

 

[StankCheeze]

Bullshit. Where on AthlonOC does it say there are no such thing as copper interconnect processors? ARE YOU STUPID? You probably read it in the forum where everyone has their own opinion. As to the best of my knowledge no articles contain that kind of false information, if they do show me the link and I will fix it right up, otherwise stop spreading lies please.

 

[Zephyr]

could you please link to the article in question? It's a pretty serious accusation, knowing AthlonOC I find it difficult to believe they would post something like that in an article, since it would obviously be false information.

 

[compuwiz1]

StankCheeze, you really let that POS cpu store disgrace your site by carrying their logo??? :Q

 

[StankCheeze]

My partner, Martin Krohn, the original webmaster, made that decision.

 

[StankCheeze]

ZOSON, I asked you a question. Link to the article on AthlonOC where it states that false information, otherwise I am pissed off you are smearing the good name of AthlonOC and want you to stop.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Funny how AthlonOC and HardwareOC and Overclockerz.com are all registered to the very same person....



Mike

 

[DarkMajiq]

Zoson: I really think that you've just read an article written by someone who has no idea what he's talking about, and unfortunately talked to a junior AMD support tech who really didn't know either. You have to be careful what sources you trust. Why would AMD say in official statements and product data that their processor had copper interconnects if it were a lie, and why would the people exposing it be someone working for a not-exactly-highly-reputable hardware site and a junior support person?

 

[Vrangel]

Overclockerz.com ? Bunch of crooks.
They sold me &quot;new&quot; ArctiCooler . When I opened the
package the polished HSF bottom had deep dents and scratches.

I've heard they changed the name of their store.
Buyers beware !