iCloud will be announced @ WWDC

[ctark]

Apple just killed amazon. (music wise)

 

[xanis]

no hardware. lame

I know hardware isn't the focus of the conference but I was at least hoping for a quick word on the iPhone refresh.

 

[purbeast0]

hmmm i may install iOS 5 today, totally forgot that devs can get early access.

 

[Gooberlx2]

2:55PM If any songs don't match they'll be uploaded for you. Anything that's matched is upgraded to 256Kbps AAC, without DRM.

Very interesting. I've got apple lossless on my desktop which I will be keeping, but to have it mirrored as 256 kbps aac in the cloud... interesting.

It'll be nice to upgrade some of my really old music rips for which I've long lost the CDs. (like back in '95-'96, when 128kbps mp3s were considered high bitrate, still sounded like warbley shit and took an about hour per song to encode via command line).

I wonder how it'll match (acoustic fingerprinting maybe, coupled with metadata, track length, etc...), and if the files will be truly DRM-free like current store downloads. I'm hoping it doesn't somehow nuke the upgraded tracks if one cancels the subscription. :hmm:

edit: In a different light, it also looks a bit like a music laundering service for everyone's napster-era downloads.

 

[Kev]

so if you pay $24.99 for the year of "match" and upload your entire library to icloud... then after 1 year you do not renew your match subscription, do you lose access to all of the songs you uploaded to match?

 

[Gooberlx2]

so if you pay $24.99 for the year of "match" and upload your entire library to icloud... then after 1 year you do not renew your match subscription, do you lose access to all of the songs you uploaded to match?

Dunno yet, but I'm definitely eager to find out more detail about the service as well.

 

[alent1234]

so if you pay $24.99 for the year of "match" and upload your entire library to icloud... then after 1 year you do not renew your match subscription, do you lose access to all of the songs you uploaded to match?

what do you think? the music companies get a lot of that money

they have been trying to find a way to make people pay monthly for music

 

[Wreckem]

Dunno yet, but I'm definitely eager to find out more detail about the service as well.

It says DRM free. It would require DRM to have it be nuked once you didn't resubscribe.

 

[Patranus]

Unmatched content will be uploaded; upload time varies depending on amounts uploaded.

http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/

Interesting

 

[Ka0t1x]

The only thing I'm worried about with iTunes match is paying subscription to keep the songs (in a sense not really worried). And there's also a 25k song limit on matching.

I think I heard a bunch of sea fairing pillagers cheer inside when iTunes matching was announced.

 

[Gooberlx2]

I think I heard a bunch of sea fairing pillagers cheer inside when iTunes matching was announced.

Agreed. But then that's some portion of $25/yr going to the industry, vs the $0 they were getting from those people before.

 

[Ka0t1x]

Oh definitely, and they're also getting money from other Mp3 purchase sites, stuff like beatport ( <3 ) and Amazon music.

 

[Patranus]

Oh definitely, and they're also getting money from other Mp3 purchase sites, stuff like beatport ( <3 ) and Amazon music.

I don't get the bitching over the $25/year service.
Its not like this is the only way to sync your songs.
You can either use it or continue to do it the way you have always been doing it.

 

[manly]

I know hardware isn't the focus of the conference but I was at least hoping for a quick word on the iPhone refresh.

assuming about 3 months until it ships, I think there would be an Osborne effect for such a pre-announcement. Except for unique cases such as the Intel transition or Apple TV, I don't think it's in their style to drop hints about hardware revisions in the pipeline.

 

[ubercaffeinated]

how does this work with existing mobileme accounts? will my mobileme be converted to an icloud equivalent? i renewed my account last year when i upgraded to the iphone 4 and still have 3 > months left on my account.

i found info about requesting a prorated refund directly on the apple website, but it would cancel my mobileme account completely and immediately... i guess i'll have to wait until icloud is out.

i do wonder how mobileme email and user names will be handled because i want to retain that stuff.

 

[Patranus]

assuming about 3 months until it ships, I think there would be an Osborne effect for such a pre-announcement. Except for unique cases such as the Intel transition or Apple TV, I don't think it's in their style to drop hints about hardware revisions in the pipeline.

One of the big issues has to be the iPhone for Verizon.
I would suspect that there has to be some window built into the contract so that customers don't get so upset.

The iPhone came out on Feb 10th for Verizon. September is roughly what, 6 months from that. Seems pretty standard.

 

[Gooberlx2]

I don't get the bitching over the $25/year service.
Its not like this is the only way to sync your songs.
You can either use it or continue to do it the way you have always been doing it.

Reading posts on Engadget, I don't get the comments that try to bemoan the service versus Zunepass, when they're not even remotely the same thing.

 

[goog40]

how does this work with existing mobileme accounts? will my mobileme be converted to an icloud equivalent? i renewed my account last year when i upgraded to the iphone 4 and still have 3 > months left on my account.

i found info about requesting a prorated refund directly on the apple website, but it would cancel my mobileme account completely and immediately... i guess i'll have to wait until icloud is out.

i do wonder how mobileme email and user names will be handled because i want to retain that stuff.

Free extension until June 2012

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/06/apple-details-mobileme-to-icloud-transition/

 

[silverpig]

What happens to my idisk?

 

[quikah]

It says DRM free. It would require DRM to have it be nuked once you didn't resubscribe.

I am guessing that you will lose access to the iCloud version if you don't pay (you can't download it again). So you can keep whatever you already downloaded, but that kind of defeats the purpose of it, you ALREADY have a copy of it.

Steve is looking extra gaunt today.

 

[JackBurton]

Steve just stabbed Android and the other competitors in the face with this announcement. Syncing devices to the cloud just gives people another reason to stay or move to Apple products. You think offering the service for free was just a generous offer from Steve? It was a genius move! Why would I get an Android phone? I can't sync it with my other devices like I can with an iPhone and an iPad. A unified platform. That's always been Apple's strength. And they are leveraging that strength HARD now.

And mirroring the iPad through Apple TV wirelessly is AWESOME!

Like always, Apple thinking outside the box.

 

[mshan]

Would it be accurate to say that Lion is just a second revision of Leopard, tightening integration with iOS, rather than a radical new platform?

And how many computers can you authorize to use Lion with with single $30 purchase (5?)? Is authorization just iTunes authorization, or is there a different authorization for App Store.

 

[Ns1]

Steve just stabbed Android and the other competitors in the face with this announcement. Syncing devices to the cloud just gives people another reason to stay or move to Apple products. You think offering the service for free was just a generous offer from Steve? It was a genius move! Why would I get an Android phone? I can't sync it with my other devices like I can with an iPhone and an iPad. A unified platform. That's always been Apple's strength. And they are leveraging that strength HARD now.

basically. was 50/50 considering SGS2 but now seems unlikely. Convenience goes a long way.

 

[ubercaffeinated]

wireless syncing was one of the key advantages of mobileme and was the primary reason i got mobileme. i can't believe it's going to be free and better now. pretty great stuff.

 

[Kaido]

And mirroring the iPad through Apple TV wirelessly is AWESOME!

This is going to be SUPER pimp with AirVideo :biggrin: