Ichiro Suzuki

[techs]

2711 hits in the U.S. 1278 hits in Japan (130 game seasons)

The best player in baseball over the last 15 years?

If he had played his whole career in the US he might have broken Ty Cobbs record of 4189 hits.

 

[PenguinPower]

God...if I hear my father-in-law talk about Ichiro one more time, I might lose it. I hate him simply because I have to hear about him incessantly when I go back to Japan.

 

[techs]

It's not often people can say they saw the best ever.

 

[boochi]

What about Pete?

 

[Howard]

What about Pete?

Pete Sampras was damn good too.

 

[esquared]

It's not often people can say they saw the best ever.

LMFAO, you made me choke on my food!

Hell, he's not even in anyone's top 100 players list that I am aware of.

He's singles hitter with a .career SP of 0.417 SP (750th), a career .362 OBP (384th). and a career 0.780 OPS (680th)

Maybe the best ever player to come out of Japan and play in the US.

Not counting any of the steroid guys over the last 15 years, my first thought would be Ken Griffey Jr and Albert Pujols over Ichiro in a heartbeat.


I am guessing this is a troll thread.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

What about Pete?

 

[McLovin]

INB4WHO?

Also:

*edit* First picture irked me.


One of the luckiest moments of my life. I threw the ball down to Ichiro, not knowing at the time who the F he was, and after he signed it, I pointed over at Griffey and said "Have him sign it too!". He just smiled, went over and had Griffey sign it and threw it back to me. I was mobbed by the Japanese camera crew asking me to show them the ball. This was the last year Griffey was on the team and Ichiro's first, during spring training.

 

[Kyle]

Wow that ball's awesome...I watched him in Seattle over the years- maybe one of the best pure singles/slap single hitters, but no way I'd consider him one of the best players ever.

 

[BrokenVisage]

What about Pete?

 

[stlc8tr]

LMFAO, you made me choke on my food!

Hell, he's not even in anyone's top 100 players list that I am aware of.

He's singles hitter with a .career SP of 0.417 SP (750th), a career .362 OBP (384th). and a career 0.780 OPS (680th)

Maybe the best ever player to come out of Japan and play in the US.

Not counting any of the steroid guys over the last 15 years, my first thought would be Ken Griffey Jr and Albert Pujols over Ichiro in a heartbeat.


I am guessing this is a troll thread.

Best ever is obviously false but I think you can make a good case that he definitely belongs in the Top 50. In his 13 MLB years, he's accumulated 55 fWAR. Since he spent the early part of his career over in the NPB, it's hard to predict what he would have done but let's assume a fairly pedestrian total of 25 WAR for his pre age-27 years. That puts him above 80 fWAR, which is a career total reached by only 37 other MLB players.

 

[Printer Bandit]

i like when he throws lasers from the outfield.

 

[angminas]

i like when he throws lasers from the outfield.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-OBCOk4ZEQ

 

[T_Yamamoto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-OBCOk4ZEQ

lol

 

[JM Aggie08]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-OBCOk4ZEQ

The Japanese is strong with this one.

 

[Squisher]

Ichiro could have hit for power if that was what was asked of him. His job is to get on base for the big dogs to bring him home.

 

[manly]

Ichiro could have hit for power if that was what was asked of him. His job is to get on base for the big dogs to bring him home.

If he could have, he would have.

Like equared said, his OBP (for the big dogs to bring him home) and OPS are nothing to brag about. Ichiro had amazing speed down the line and that enhanced his BA measurably. Had a very good career as others here have mentioned.

Rickey Henderson hung on 4 years too long and still managed a stellar .400 career OBP.

 

[Perknose]

Everyone talks about Ichiro, but nobody here ever mentions Scratchyro.

 

[mkrohn]

2711 hits in the U.S. 1278 hits in Japan (130 game seasons)

The best player in baseball over the last 15 years?

If he had played his whole career in the US he might have broken Ty Cobbs record of 4189 hits.

I wouldn't even call him top 10 in the past 15 years. We just had a triple Crown winner... there's been more than a dozen pitchers I'd take over him too. The guy who defines the closer role is about to retire...

I mean seriously ichiro is average at getting on base. If his name was something like Matt Ryan nobody would care. His entire thing is he's japanese

 

[SP33Demon]

LMFAO, you made me choke on my food!

Hell, he's not even in anyone's top 100 players list that I am aware of.

He's singles hitter with a .career SP of 0.417 SP (750th), a career .362 OBP (384th). and a career 0.780 OPS (680th)

Maybe the best ever player to come out of Japan and play in the US.

Not counting any of the steroid guys over the last 15 years, my first thought would be Ken Griffey Jr and Albert Pujols over Ichiro in a heartbeat.


I am guessing this is a troll thread.

I'm guessing this is a troll response to the thread.

Ichiro in 12.5 years: 59.5 WAR, for an avg of 4.76 per seaon.
Ken Griffey in 22 years: 83.7 WAR, for an avg of 3.80 per season.

Considering that Griffey posted an incredibly shitty 7.7 WAR in the last decade of his career (age 30-40, 2001-2010, 3,985 PA's) vs Ichiro's (@39 years old, 2534 PA's) last 5 years surpassing that, you tell me who's been more consistent and dominant. Griffey may have peaked higher in his prime but was absolutely worthless in the last 10 years of his existence, hence his shit WAR average per season (almost 1 full win less) than Ichiro's. Not to mention if you added Ichiro's WAR from Japan he would be around Griffey's level of career WAR and far surpassed his average per year. But you can continue to keep the blinders on when it comes to Griffey, that's your opinion (which the math doesn't support).

To add to the stupid in your post, comparing Ichiro to the greatest hitter of the 00 decade (Pujols, 12.5 years 92.9 WAR) is just fucking stupid. Why don't we compare Pete Rose (79.4 WAR) to Joe Morgan (100.4) or Mike Schmidt (106.5 WAR)? Holy shit what a dumb comparison, the best power hitter of a generation to someone who hits for average (in Pujols' case, both). What's next, Babe Ruth vs Rogers Hornsby? Because that's how stupid you sound when you compare Pujols to Ichiro.

 

[boochi]

WAR = The dumbest stat ever created.

I want to skull fuck you for eternity for using it so.

 

[Blackjack200]

WAR = The dumbest stat ever created.

I want to skull fuck you for eternity for using it so.

Wow man, that's pretty harsh. :\

I mean, eternity?

 

[jaedaliu]

Aren't you supposed to contact your doctor after 4 hours? That's what Viagra commercials have taught me.

 

[esquared]

I'm guessing this is a troll response to the thread.

Ichiro in 12.5 years: 59.5 WAR, for an avg of 4.76 per seaon.
Ken Griffey in 22 years: 83.7 WAR, for an avg of 3.80 per season.

Considering that Griffey posted an incredibly shitty 7.7 WAR in the last decade of his career (age 30-40, 2001-2010, 3,985 PA's) vs Ichiro's (@39 years old, 2534 PA's) last 5 years surpassing that, you tell me who's been more consistent and dominant. Griffey may have peaked higher in his prime but was absolutely worthless in the last 10 years of his existence, hence his shit WAR average per season (almost 1 full win less) than Ichiro's. Not to mention if you added Ichiro's WAR from Japan he would be around Griffey's level of career WAR and far surpassed his average per year. But keep sucking Griffey's cock and ostriching with your head in the sand.

To add to the stupid in your post, comparing Ichiro to the greatest hitter of the 00 decade (Pujols, 12.5 years 92.9 WAR) is just fucking stupid. Why don't we compare Pete Rose (79.4 WAR) to Joe Morgan (100.4) or Mike Schmidt (106.5 WAR)? Holy shit what a dumb comparison, the best power hitter of a generation to someone who hits for average (in Pujols' case, both). What's next, Babe Ruth vs Rogers Hornsby? Because that's how stupid you sound when you compare Pujols to Ichiro.

Read the OP.

OP asked who would be the best player in the last 15 years?

I excluded all the steroid fuel players and those are the two I came up with off the top of my head. I wasn't comparing Ichirio to pujols or to griffey.

Reading fail.

And if you can't reply to a simple post without all the profanity, you have issues.

And I agree with boochi. WAR is the dumbest stat ever created.

Again, Ichiro is in no one's top 100 list. That's about where he belongs.

 

[preslove]

If he could have, he would have.

Like equared said, his OBP (for the big dogs to bring him home) and OPS are nothing to brag about. Ichiro had amazing speed down the line and that enhanced his BA measurably. Had a very good career as others here have mentioned.

Rickey Henderson hung on 4 years too long and still managed a stellar .400 career OBP.

I'd take Rickey over Ichero for leadoff if I were making an all time all star team.