>>IC7 & 2.4B overclcling results<<

[maxSe]

Purpose of this tesing was basically to find out how far these first batch of 875P's can overclock...
The processor ran rock stable @189fsb with Abit BH-7. I only used the same voltage of 1.55v that I used with BH-7.

I found out that if you want to change the timing of the memory, you have to change the H/W Strap Setting in the bios (thanks, THUGS. ). All the testings were done with 1:1 ratio.

Sytem Spec
P4 2.4B SL6EF (week 39) - 1.55v
Abit IC7 (shipping bios)
Kingston Hyper-X PC3500 2x 256mb - 2.7v
Thermake AquariusII H2O kit, Koolance CPU-200 waterblock, ASII
Antec TruePower 550w
GF4 Ti4200 (128MB) - det 40.72 (WHQL) - WinXP SP1

>H/W Strap Seetings<
H/W533: 2-2-2-6
H/W667: 2-3-3-7
H/W800: 2.5-3-3-8 :Q

>Maximum FSB< (P95 1hr loop, Hot CPU Tester (6hr test!!), 3DMark 2001SE 1hr loop)
H/W533: 186FSB (3355MHz)
H/W667: 188FSB (3391MHz)
H/W800: 188FSB (3391MHz)

>Max OC Comparison<
3355MHz (186fsb) H/W533: 2-2-2-6
AIDA read - 4668
AIDA write - 1456
Sandra Memory - 4601/4602
3DM 2001SE - 12949

3391MHz (188fsb) H/W667: 2-3-3-7
AIDA read - 4383
AIDA write - 1265
Sandra Memory - 4496/4499
3DM 2001SE - 12694

3391MHz (188fsb) H/W800: 2.5-3-3-8
AIDA read - 4146
AIDA write - 1172
Sandra Memory - 4284/4292
3DM 2001SE - 12566


>186FSB (3355MHz) Performance Comparison<
H/W533: 2-2-2-6
AIDA read - 4668
AIDA write - 1456
Sandra Memory - 4601/4602
3DM 2001SE - 12949

H/W667: 2-3-3-7
AIDA read - 4383
AIDA write - 1265
Sandra Memory - 4496/4499
3DM 2001SE - 12694

H/W800: 2.5-3-3-8
AIDA read - 4146
AIDA write - 1172
Sandra Memory - 4284/4292
3DM 2001SE - 12566

At least now we know 2 Canterwood boards (PJ's Aopen & mine) are able to overclock beyond 180fsb...
Enjoy!

 

[human2k]

Nice results!

 

[oldfart]

Nice test. Thanks!

At least now we know 2 Canterwood boards (PJ's Aopen & mine) are able to overclock beyond 180fsb...
Enjoy

Yep. So far, the Aopen AX4C and the Abit IC7 are the ones to get. I wish the AX4C was available in the non "MAX" version. I dont need all that extra stuff (and price that goes with it).

 

[THUGSROOK]

TY maxSe

 

[Duvie]

This may be a stupid question, but who is surprised by this anyways??? Were you just testing how well P4 "b" chips did cause I would damn well expect the canterwoods which are supposed to run p4c chips to run 200fsb easy since they would need to to run 800fsb cpus.....I expect it, don't you???

The thing to test is how much past 200fsb these boards can go...230??240?? 280 to 300???

Edit: I may have found the reason for your guys research in this matter...guess I should frequent a bit more!!! The boards are appearing to have problems running b chips in those 166-199 range???

 

[human2k]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
TY maxSe

Does that mean you will be getting Canterwood too anytime soon thugs?

 

[Spicedaddy]

The boards are appearing to have problems running b chips in those 166-199 range???

I think that's just a problem with the Asus. All the others I've seen didn't have the problem...

 

[oldfart]

Originally posted by: Duvie
This may be a stupid question, but who is surprised by this anyways??? Were you just testing how well P4 "b" chips did cause I would damn well expect the canterwoods which are supposed to run p4c chips to run 200fsb easy since they would need to to run 800fsb cpus.....I expect it, don't you???

The thing to test is how much past 200fsb these boards can go...230??240?? 280 to 300???

Edit: I may have found the reason for your guys research in this matter...guess I should frequent a bit more!!! The boards are appearing to have problems running b chips in those 166-199 range???

Yes. Some boards cant overclock "B" chips well at all.

 

[THUGSROOK]

Does that mean you will be getting Canterwood too anytime soon thugs?

i might be

its a tough call right now ~ id very upset if it didnt do something better then my P4G8X. (which i happen to be in love with)

ive already got 2 projects in the works (upgrading to 2gb of ram and win2kpro), and 1 uncompleted (panaflo fan for my MCX) so itll have to wait til im done with those.

i know alot of ppl are extreamly interested in how well 4x512mb (KHX) can run on both of these boards



thx again for the post maxSe

 

[Krk3561]

Is that 2.4B from Costa Rica (plant code 3)? I've got a SL6EF of the the same week so I'm excited to see if I can get the same FSB as you did in my IC7 thats coming tomorrow.

Heres my 2.4B's codes:

Stepping code: SL6EF

FPO/BATCH #: 3231A416

VERSION #: C10670-001

Pack Date: 9/25/02

Should this CPU be a good OCer?

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Krk3561
Is that 2.4B from Costa Rica (plant code 3)? I've got a SL6EF of the the same week so I'm excited to see if I can get the same FSB as you did in my IC7 thats coming tomorrow.

Heres my 2.4B's codes:

Stepping code: SL6EF

FPO/BATCH #: 3231A416

VERSION #: C10670-001

Pack Date: 9/25/02

Should this CPU be a good OCer?

Even it was it could be hit or miss as a lot of the fab dates back that far were just getting to 3ghz on average...My week 47 from costa rica does 3.17ghz w/ 1:1 ratio and default vcore and can hit 3.3ghz with hgher vcore and it was a pretty good chips based on other ppls similar dates...

 

[maxSe]

Thanks guys for the feedback. This testing was basically to figure out how well Canterwoods overclock 533 P4's... I was very apprehensive after reading that Asus was having problem going over 166fsb...

THUGS, I'd be very interested in your project with 2gb of ram stuffed in one of these... Honestly though, I don't think you'lll get that much noticeable difference between your P4G8X... numbers are very similar to GB performance. I bought this board since I skipped GB, and to prepare for 800fsb chips...

Krk3561, honestly I can't say how well yours will... As Duvie pointed out, it's all hit or miss... Good luck to ya & have fun~

COORECTION! my chip is week 39! Sorry about that...

 

[human2k]

Why Win2k over WinXP thugs?

 

[THUGSROOK]

like many oldtimers here ~ when it got to the EULA, i said NO

M$ is no longer intersted in making its OSes better ~ all they wanna do is help the govn spy on you.
(cause they "lost" that antitrust lawsuit and now Uncle sam has Bill in its pocket)

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: human2k
Why Win2k over WinXP thugs?

I too still prefer Win2k to XP,like Heston would say.

You'll have to pry away Win2k from my cold dead hands.

 

[caboob]

Great job, maxse! Now I know what my next board will be. Still enjoying my current boards so I'll just watch the price on this board.

 

[caboob]

sorry, double post...

 

[oldfart]

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: human2k
Why Win2k over WinXP thugs?

I too still prefer Win2k to XP,like Heston would say.

You'll have to pry away Win2k from my cold dead hands.

Win2K is also "cleaner" looking IMHO. Doesn't have the Teletubby look to it.

 

[pm]

I am looking at the IC7 and found this thread looking for reviews. Where did you buy it? Aside from it's ability to run above 166MHz - which is not something that I'm planning on doing - what else did you think of it, maxSE?

Thanks

Originally posted by: oldfart
Win2K is also "cleaner" looking IMHO. Doesn't have the Teletubby look to it.

You can change the look of WinXP back to "Classic".

Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Display -> Themes -> and choose: "Windows Classic".

Then, while you are at it, change the start menu back to Classic

Start -> Settings -> Taskbar & Start menu -> Start menu -> and choose "Classic Start Menu"

It makes it look identical to Windows 2000 when you are done.

 

[caboob]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
like many oldtimers here ~ when it got to the EULA, i said NO

M$ is no longer intersted in making its OSes better ~ all they wanna do is help the govn spy on you.
(cause they "lost" that antitrust lawsuit and now Uncle sam has Bill in its pocket)

I just hate "activation" everytime I install a new mobo and I too will be doing win2K next time.

 

[oldfart]

Originally posted by: pm
I am looking at the IC7 and found this thread looking for reviews. Where did you buy it? Aside from it's ability to run above 166MHz - which is not something that I'm planning on doing - what else did you think of it, maxSE?

Thanks

Originally posted by: oldfart
Win2K is also "cleaner" looking IMHO. Doesn't have the Teletubby look to it.

You can change the look of WinXP back to "Classic".

Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Display -> Themes -> and choose: "Windows Classic".

Then, while you are at it, change the start menu back to Classic

Start -> Settings -> Taskbar & Start menu -> Start menu -> and choose "Classic Start Menu"

It makes it look identical to Windows 2000 when you are done.

Yeah, I know. I do that whenever I do a WinXP install. You also have to change performance to "max performance". That gets rid of some more stuff. Then change the search settings to get rid of the stupid puppy dog thing. Just too much bloatware IMHO.

I'll go to XP eventually I guess. 2K does not support Hyperthreading. Once I get a HT CPU, I wont have a choice.

 

[ahfung]

Hi oldfart

Really Win2000 doesn't support HT? This concern me too because I'm about to get P4C and I love 2000 too.

 

[Egrimm]

Originally posted by: ahfung
Hi oldfart Really Win2000 doesn't support HT? This concern me too because I'm about to get P4C and I love 2000 too.

Yup, 2k actually performs worse with HT enabled. the only M$ os'es that support HT fully is XP and 2003.

 

[maxSe]

Originally posted by: pm
I am looking at the IC7 and found this thread looking for reviews. Where did you buy it? Aside from it's ability to run above 166MHz - which is not something that I'm planning on doing - what else did you think of it, maxSE?

I bought it from Googlegear. $152 shipped 2nd day is hard to beat. I'm sure the price will come down more pretty soon.

Aside from the memory timing issue, I think this board is pretty much as I expected it. Very stable and responsive. I'd recoomend to anyone who's thinking of jumping over to Canterwood. I've heard the Aopen Canterwood performs a bit faster, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over Aopen getting a few hundred more points in benchmark, etc...

Next I'm going to try to tackle the Radeon problem (lockups, won't boot into windows), and see if how 2x512MB Winbond 512MB modules do on this (they should arrive tomorrow... )

oldfart, I like the teletubby look of XP... heh... I agree with you on the most part. Only thing I like about XP is the recent application section on the start button...

 

[Wesley Fink]

Originally posted by: Spicedaddy

The boards are appearing to have problems running b chips in those 166-199 range???

I think that's just a problem with the Asus. All the others I've seen didn't have the problem...

It appears the Gigabyte also has the overclocking hole from 165 to 200. Asus is now saying it is an issue wiht the AMI BIOS and may not be fixable.