IBM joins Open Invention Network, promoting Linux

Steeplerot

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This is good, I myself use and game on linux (Ubuntu) and always welcome more developers on the path to bringing it into the mainstream.

M$ is a stagnant monopoly toppling over in its own bureaucratic mess as overlarge corporations tend to do.
 

kogase

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Meh. If ALSA ever makes a competent driver and audio subsystem, let me know. Maybe then I'll consider Linux to be worth the CD-R it's burned on.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: kogase
Meh. If ALSA ever makes a competent driver and audio subsystem, let me know. Maybe then I'll consider Linux to be worth the CD-R it's burned on.


See hardware variation for manfacturers that release closed source drivers isn't the easiest thing in the world, I haven't yet experienced any quality issues with any sound card, for example on my Chaintech envy link, I can hear sound quality that is even a tad better on Linux. I have to say from the first time I tried Linux there was only one old sound card that wasn't detected and configured properly, and that was on some old server box.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: kogase
Meh. If ALSA ever makes a competent driver and audio subsystem, let me know. Maybe then I'll consider Linux to be worth the CD-R it's burned on.


See hardware variation for manfacturers that release closed source drivers isn't the easiest thing in the world, I haven't yet experienced any quality issues with any sound card, for example on my Chaintech envy link, I can hear sound quality that is even a tad better on Linux. I have to say from the first time I tried Linux there was only one old sound card that wasn't detected and configured properly, and that was on some old server box.

You probably don't attempt to use any cards with a semblence of quality. For example, my (low-end prosumer) Echo Mia was a real bitch to get working. I think ALSA finally merged the driver in with the base install, but then the mixer doesn't work properly. Then there's the fact that there are no decent audio servers. There's ESD, which sucks, and ARTS, which sucks. There's JACK, which doesn't suck, but nobody uses. Then there's the plethora of various programs both old and new which don't use any sound server but attempt to access the audio hardware directly, thus messing up ESD/ARTS. It's a gigantic haphazard mess, and until it gets cleaned up Linux as a whole--and hell, BSD for that matter--will be worthless to me.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: kogase
Meh. If ALSA ever makes a competent driver and audio subsystem, let me know. Maybe then I'll consider Linux to be worth the CD-R it's burned on.


See hardware variation for manfacturers that release closed source drivers isn't the easiest thing in the world, I haven't yet experienced any quality issues with any sound card, for example on my Chaintech envy link, I can hear sound quality that is even a tad better on Linux. I have to say from the first time I tried Linux there was only one old sound card that wasn't detected and configured properly, and that was on some old server box.

You probably don't attempt to use any cards with a semblence of quality. For example, my (low-end prosumer) Echo Mia was a real bitch to get working. I think ALSA finally merged the driver in with the base install, but then the mixer doesn't work properly. Then there's the fact that there are no decent audio servers. There's ESD, which sucks, and ARTS, which sucks. There's JACK, which doesn't suck, but nobody uses. Then there's the plethora of various programs both old and new which don't use any sound server but attempt to access the audio hardware directly, thus messing up ESD/ARTS. It's a gigantic haphazard mess, and until it gets cleaned up Linux as a whole--and hell, BSD for that matter--will be worthless to me.


Well hope things work out for you, as for me, my hardware is working great on all systems, Mplayer is AWESOME for recording streaming videos , audio or both, but what's missing is an advanced music editing software, Audacity is nice but still not good enough. I need something that has some nice track editing features , so I am still waiting for that, if you know of a good one then please do point that out ;).