IBM 60GB 75GXP ATA/100 8.5ms - $205!

XGamer

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This isnt really much of a deal. This is about how much they go for now. You can go on pricewatch and find lots of places selling 60 gig ata100 7200 rpm drives for under $200...
 

hoihtah

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question for those with lots of experience in raid

i'm looking to purchase a drive for around $200-230

would it be better deal for me to buy

2, (40GB EIDE ULTRA ATA/100 LP DESKSTAR 5400RPM 40GV)
for about $230 and raid it? (strip w/o parity)

buy one 60gb hd at 7200 rpm?
speed wise... which is faster? and by how much?

thanx
 

KimChii

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I think having the two drives would be faster since thier combined thoroughput will be higher than the single 60Gig.

Now, when I say faster, I'm talking about transfering data and stuff.

Seek time wise, the 7200Rpm will beat 'em out. But, seriously, I think anyone can spare a whole half to full second more for data access.

Besides, you'll have 20 gigs extra with the raid set up.


 

linster

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Another option would be getting 2 30 gig 7200 and raid them. It'll be faster than your two options.
 

Rcoops

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Excuse my rookiness, but what does it mean to RAID the drive?

Also I am looking to get the IBM 75gig I seen it as low as $320.00 with free S/H

Rcoops
 
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RAID stands for (I think) Redundant Array of Independent Disks. "Striping" is RAID level 0, and what it means is that you have two or more disks set up to appear to the operating system as a single disk. Your data gets seperated into several segments, with the segments being written to different disks. For example, let's say you've got four disks in a RAID 0 configuration. A given file will be segmented like this:

A B C D A B C D A B C D A B C D

...then all the A's will get written to one disk, B's to another, C's to a third, and D's to the fourth. The big advantage of this is that you get four times the transfer rate, less overhead. The big disadvantage is that if any one of those four disks goes bad, all of your data is lost.

There are other levels of RAID, with RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 1+0 (or RAID 10) being the most common. Plenty o' information about 'em available on the Web.
 

hoihtah

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raid :: Redundant Arrays of Inexpensive Disks

raid0 :: striping w/o parity
min of 2 physical drives can form 1 logical drive.
it utilizes the speed of two drives.
however if one of the physical drive fails, then you lose info from the logical
drive

raid1 :: mirroring
min of 2 physical drive can form 1 logical drive
it utilizes physical drives to store same information on each drives... hence
providing a back up. (security)

raid5 :: striping w/ parity
min of 3 drives can form 1 logical drive
in a simpliest term, it combines raid 0 and 1 to provide speed and security.
(there's also raid 0/1 which is different from raid5)
all three physical drives utilizes its combined speed to store information,
each drive backs up a lil' bit of information of other drives... enough info, so
that if one of the drive fails, then it can be regenerated using the backed up
info from working drives.

in simple terms.

raid0 = speed
2 x 10gb = 20gb
raid1 = backup / security
2 x 10gb = 10gb
raid5 = speed & security
3 x 10gb = 30gb - z/y(30gb/3 in this case) = 20gb
z=sum of physical drives space.
y=total number of physical drives.

i feel like i'm studying for mcse exams
 

Krenotenze

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I posted this because they are a reputable company. I only purchase from companies I know, companies that other friends of mine trust, or if they have a high rating on resellerratings.com. So that's why I posted this price. Sure you can get it from a company for like 200 or so, but at the same time you're taking a chance on things. I have had bad experiences once or twice, don't want that happening again, and nor do I want others to go through the experience.
 

junthin

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Well, if anyone's interested, I am willing to sell brand new sealed oem IBM 60GB 75GXP ATA/100 IDE hard drive for $210.00 shipped. PM me or email if interested. I have references under "junthin" at Heatware and egay. Thanks! :)
 

sleefer

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I have purchased from UCD in the past several times and have never had any problems with them. I would not be afraid to order from them just because they have a better price. Besides the fact that they have a 5.8 rating compared to a 3.6 for Access and 1.2 for 1stE.
 

Krenotenze

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Sorry, I was looking at the wrong rating, I withdraw my comment. That is a good deal, but I was unaware of it. Nonetheless, the 60 for 205 is not a bad deal either
 

littlebig

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As for UCD, I also have good experiences with them. Returning item without any hassle even though short return period (7/7 I guess)
 

phillyTIM

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wrote: raid5 = speed & security
3 x 10gb = 30gb x 75%(i think this is correct) = 22.5gb


Actually, RAID-5 uses a minimum of 3 drives (lets say, X), and 1/X is lost. Example:

If you have 3 drives x 10Gb each: 1/3 leaves 2 drives. so 10Gb x 2 drives = 20Gb left out of the 30Gb.

If you have 4 drives x 10Gb each: 1/4 leaves 3 drives. So 10Gb x 3 drives = 30Gb (out of the 40Gb)
 

hoihtah

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phillyTIM ... you're right!!
i stand corrected.
it's been awhile since i studied my raid.
thanx

;)
 

Undream

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Remember, you can read data faster that is stored on a RAID0 or RAID5 array, but it in fact takes LONGER to write data, since it has to write files to multiple physical disks.

Also, if you are considering running a RAID array on your computer, you can do it one of two ways -- Buy a RAID controller card, or run software RAID with Windows NT or Windows 2000. Software RAID will take a little CPU time to process which bits of information go on which drive. Just remember there are just as many downsides to RAID as there are benefits when considering it for a multimedia/workstation user system.

Undream
 

Rcoops

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Hey guys. Thank you for the RAID Info. I know understand it a lot more.

In your opinion if you just have a PC for home use does it make sense to RAID your drives? I do not think it does, but I am not the expert here.

I also heard good things from UCD. Thanks for the props

Thanks again for the RAID info.

Rcoops
 

adamone11

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Undream


<< Remember, you can read data faster that is stored on a RAID0 or RAID5 array, but it in fact takes LONGER to write data, since it has to write files to multiple physical disks. >>

:disgust:

I don't think so. Arstechnica's article says you can still get impressive write speeds. Think about it. Why would it be worse writing than reading? If anything, intuitively, you'd think reading would suffer.

The most likely downsides of RAID are:

Reduced disk capacity
Increased CPU usage
Increased risk of data loss

while the usual benefits are, of course

Data security
Increased Xfer rates
Coolness factor
 

hoihtah

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i'd have to agree with adamone
i don't think it takes longer time to write data.
after all, you raid0 or raid5 to gain speed, not to lose speed.