IAEA reports Iran is doing Warhead experiments associated with the production of nuclear weapons

[Socio]

IAEA report should pave way for tighter Iran sanctions

The latest United Nations report on Iran's nuclear program should pave the way for passage next week of a new UN Security Council resolution tightening sanctions against Tehran, U.S. ambassador to the UN Zalmay Khalilzad said Friday.

The report released Friday by the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed that Iran has continued to enrich uranium in defiance of repeated UN Security Council resolutions demanding that it suspend the uranium centrifuge program, which could produce both civilian nuclear fuel and the material for a nuclear bomb.

"The IAEA report does give us very important points to make," Khalilzad said. "They [Iran] did not come clean."

The report states that Iran has carried out a series of experiments associated with the production of nuclear weapons, high velocity explosives, and uranium enrichment. Teheran has also reportedly carried out simulations of warhead detonations and tests involving Polonium 210, a material used to develop nuclear weapons.

It is becoming painfully obvious that Iranian government is flat out in your face lying with regard to their nuclear weapon proliferation intentions. The UN can try more sanctions but I think it is only a matter of time before the sanctions are pushed aside for more drastic measures i.e bombing their nuclear facilities and military installations back to the Stone Age.

I think the bombing should be a joint effort with the US, Europe, Russia and China this would send a strong clear message to any country that it will not be tolerated and there is no one to hide behind if you try.

The other benefit would be it would lesson even remove the need for a missile defense system which should make Russia happy.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Socio

I think the bombing should be a joint effort with the US, Europe, Russia and China this would send a strong clear message to any country that it will not be tolerated and there is no one to hide behind if you try.

Why would Europe bomb a great source of their revenue while everyone is talking about a potential economic slowdown?

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: Socio
IAEA report should pave way for tighter Iran sanctions

The latest United Nations report on Iran's nuclear program should pave the way for passage next week of a new UN Security Council resolution tightening sanctions against Tehran, U.S. ambassador to the UN Zalmay Khalilzad said Friday.

The report released Friday by the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed that Iran has continued to enrich uranium in defiance of repeated UN Security Council resolutions demanding that it suspend the uranium centrifuge program, which could produce both civilian nuclear fuel and the material for a nuclear bomb.

"The IAEA report does give us very important points to make," Khalilzad said. "They [Iran] did not come clean."

The report states that Iran has carried out a series of experiments associated with the production of nuclear weapons, high velocity explosives, and uranium enrichment. Teheran has also reportedly carried out simulations of warhead detonations and tests involving Polonium 210, a material used to develop nuclear weapons.

You mean these IAEA Reports? 😉

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Socio

I think the bombing should be a joint effort with the US, Europe, Russia and China this would send a strong clear message to any country that it will not be tolerated and there is no one to hide behind if you try.

Why would Europe bomb a great source of their revenue while everyone is talking about a potential economic slowdown?

Stave off a potential nuclear holocaust, the triggering of WWIII, etc?

Sometimes in life you have to slap the hand that feeds you like when it is full of shit, you might starve a little bit at first but in the long run it will make things taste a whole lot better.

 

[Aimster]

There is zero evidence Iran would use nuclear weapons if they had them.

 

[Aimster]

By the way this story is all over.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/957097.html

Haaretz is always wrong. At least get the story from FoxNews

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: Aimster
There is zero evidence Iran would use nuclear weapons if they had them.

Except for the part where they threatened to wipe out a neighboring state and instigating violent hate towards nations *cough*Israel*cough* in their schools, judicial system, and every state-ran societal property.

Oh wait, this Aimster. My bad. I accidentally mistook you for a human being.

 

[Jhhnn]

Fearmonger much, Socio?

Here's what El Baradei actually had to say-

http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter...08/iranreport0208.html

Funny how that's a whole lot different than your spin on it, or Condi's....


Oh, and here's the spin from the other side-

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8612030516

 

[Noobtastic]

El Baradei is very anti-Israel and is just another Middle East tool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_ElBaradei

His dependence on fallacies (i.e, Iran suspected of nukes...but Israel has them!) and ridiculous reductions of current events makes me wonder how the f**k he got the job.

Are bjs popular in Egypt?

or do they violate Islamic law....??


hmmm......

 

[Moonbeam]

Somebody save me please. We need to nuke the world and kill everybody on the planet so I can feel safe. My life is so important and you need to die. I must never see how much I fear discovering my own self hate.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: Aimster
There is zero evidence Iran would use nuclear weapons if they had them.

Lets see;

Iran starts doing experiments regarding nuclear warheads then:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/956744.html">Iranian Parliament Speaker Gholam Hadad has warned that the "countdown to Israel's destruction has begun," in an interview published Thursday in an Iranian newspaper.
</a>

2+2 usually equals 4

 

[Jhhnn]

Pretty desperate, there, Noobtastic. You're practically foaming at the mouth.

Here's El Baradei on the subject of Israel-

http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter...4/alahram27072004.html

Which is just what I could come up with rather quickly, and entirely consistent with what he's said all along...

You need to consult some sources other than the usual AIPAC ravings if you want to be well informed...

 

[Jhhnn]

Pretty desperate on your part, too, Socio- all the evidence, from our own intelligence agencies to this new IAEA report, indicates that the Iranians stopped any sort of potential weapons development research some while back...

But, please, don't let any sort of factual information cloud your judgement...

Nice attempted duh-version from your initial fearmongering to what an Iranian politician said... there are many who think that the destruction of israel is inevitable- it's really more a question of self-destruction than anything else...

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Pretty desperate on your part, too, Socio- all the evidence, from our own intelligence agencies to this new IAEA report, indicates that the Iranians stopped any sort of potential weapons development research some while back...

But, please, don't let any sort of factual information cloud your judgement...

Nice attempted duh-version from your initial fearmongering to what an Iranian politician said... there are many who think that the destruction of israel is inevitable- it's really more a question of self-destruction than anything else...

The same story is on AP;

US Wants New Iran Sanctions Fast

But of course;

But it said Teheran had rejected as irrelevant some material forwarded by the agency that purportedly shows it working on tests of missile trajectories and high explosives, and research on a missile re-entry vehicle ? activities that would most likely be part of weapons development. Questions also remained on how and why Iran came to possess diagrams showing how to mold uranium metal into warhead shape.

Sorry to disappoint you but it looks like the report is the real deal.

 

[jpeyton]

Sanctions? *yawn*

Iran must be shaking in their boots right now.

Sooner or later, Iran will develop their own nuclear weapons. Their enemies (Israel) have them, so why shouldn't they? Safety through the possibility of MAD.

Look at how the US has dealt with Pakistan and NK since they proved they had nuclear weapons? Iran isn't stupid; they see the favoritism and want to get their arsenal online as soon as possible.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Pretty desperate, there, Noobtastic. You're practically foaming at the mouth.

Here's El Baradei on the subject of Israel-

http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter...4/alahram27072004.html

Which is just what I could come up with rather quickly, and entirely consistent with what he's said all along...

You need to consult some sources other than the usual AIPAC ravings if you want to be well informed...

Um, did you actually read that?

Each State, whether Egypt, Saudi Arabia or Israel, views security measures from its own perspective. There are three basic elements to such a structure.

First, the region should be rid completely of weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons. Israel must adhere to the regime and legally undertake to submit to the IAEA?s comprehensive safeguards regime... All States of the region should also accede to the Convention on the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons; Israel and a number of Arab States are still not party to that Convention.

Skips to the generalizations. "We're all in this thing together" bulls**t.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_ElBaradei

"We must abandon the unworkable notion that it is morally reprehensible for some countries to pursue weapons of mass destruction, yet morally acceptable for others to rely on them for security - and indeed to continue to refine their capacities and postulate plans for their use."

this is his stance on Iran's pursuit of weapons.

Baradei is a TOOL. nothing more.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: Aimster
There is zero evidence Iran would use nuclear weapons if they had them.

Except for the part where they threatened to wipe out a neighboring state and instigating violent hate towards nations *cough*Israel*cough* in their schools, judicial system, and every state-ran societal property.

Oh wait, this Aimster. My bad. I accidentally mistook you for a human being.

Sorry they didn't threaten to do anything.
Wiping out the regime of a nation does not mean blowing everyone up.

U.S has said they will wipe out the regime of Iran too.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Aimster
There is zero evidence Iran would use nuclear weapons if they had them.

Lets see;

Iran starts doing experiments regarding nuclear warheads then:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/956744.html">Iranian Parliament Speaker Gholam Hadad has warned that the "countdown to Israel's destruction has begun," in an interview published Thursday in an Iranian newspaper.
</a>

2+2 usually equals 4

India and Pakistan just tested some missiles like that.

Let's invade them.

 

[Noobtastic]

Sorry they didn't threaten to do anything.
Wiping out the regime of a nation does not mean blowing everyone up.

Uhh...what the f88k?

U.S has said they will wipe out the regime of Iran too.

Yeah, because Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons and threatening allied nations with violence.

I'd like to live in your world.

 

[Aimster]

oh allied nations with violence.

so since Iran is not an allied nation it is OK for the U.S to threaten them with force.

So the U.S is allowed to threaten regime change in Iran but when Iran threatens regime change against "Israel" Iran needs to be bombed to death.

Brilliant post.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: Aimster
oh allied nations with violence.

What?

so since Iran is not an allied nation it is OK for the U.S to threaten them with force.

Ok, do I need to count the syllables out?

A) Iran has stated repeatedly its intention to destroy the state of Israel. This shouldn't surprise anyone considering Iran has a very radical and fundamentalist government.

B) Unfortunately for you Aimster, Israel is a economic and strategic ally of the western world, most notably the United States. Allies tend to ally with each other when threatened, and this situation isn't any different. Iran made a choice and the US responded appropriately. What do you think we should have said? Everyone is entitled to their opinion? XD

So the U.S is allowed to threaten regime change in Iran but when Iran threatens regime change against "Israel" Iran needs to be bombed to death.

Fallacies. Please enroll yourself in elementary rhetoric. Perhaps then you'll be able to pass off fallacies without others laughing.

Brilliant post.

Thanks!

 

[Aimster]

Wrong. Iran has only called for the destruction of the regime of Israel.

Prove otherwise.
Exactly. Just more of your blabbering.

 

[jpeyton]

Noobtastic, when exactly are the bombs dropping? You got an reasonable prediction, or just jibber-jabber?

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Wrong. Iran has only called for the destruction of the regime of Israel.

Prove otherwise.
Exactly. Just more of your blabbering.

Uhh...semantics?

Please respond to my post in full or don't at all.

Noobtastic, when exactly are the bombs dropping? You got an reasonable prediction, or just jibber-jabber?

Uhhh...what bombs? As far as I know Iran isn't nuclear capable. What are you arguing?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Uhhh...what bombs? As far as I know Iran isn't nuclear capable. What are you arguing?

My bad, it's actually Socio that wants us to bomb Iran.

:music::music:Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran:music::music: