Question i9-13900K or i9-12900K for EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N

[GEOrifle]

Hi. I'm waiting for EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N motherboard from EVGA RMA.
Latest BIOS allowed board accept beside 12th generation CPU's also 13th generation(some even have 14th installed with custom BIOS).
So question is which CPU i should go, for i9-13900K(fast and hot) or i9-12900K(slover but cooler and cheaper).
I know it's already old board with z690 support when new ones are already selling(curently got LGA 1851 Ulrta 265K build 3 months ago, also have some old ones too, nothing emergency).
Maybe isn't worth it (even board is high standart) to keep it because old generation, sell it and spend for LGA 1851upgrades ?
Some recommending keep EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N because it's high value and invest into it.
Thanks.

 

[alcoholbob]

Why specifically 12900K and 13900K? Do you already have these CPUs? If so update the BIOS, do a -75mv to -100mv undervolt (or further if your chip can handle it) and the 13900K should be perfectly fine. At Intel defaults the PL1 is 125W for Raptor Lake, so for gaming and sustained productivity it doesn't really run that hot at all, in fact it runs cooler than Arrow Lake at the same TDP as it's less power dense. It's only a problem if you run the CPU at unlimited power settings and stock voltages, which are frankly, insane.

If you are gaming, there is no point for any 1851 upgrades, Arrow Lake isn't any faster than a 12900K in gaming, and it's also a dead end platform.

 

[GEOrifle]

I'm trying to get one before board arrives.
Did Intel fixed 13900K problems? Maybe more stable 12900k is safer?
From other side 12900k supports only lover end DDR5

 

[coercitiv]

Did Intel fixed 13900K problems? Maybe more stable 12900k is safer?

They say they did, but even this month they released a new firmware that is suposed to further limit degradation:

Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen Vmin Shift Instabilty Update - New Microcode Update (0x12F)

As part of its effort to continually improve its products, Intel is releasing a new microcode update (0x12F) supplementing the 0x12B microcode update released in September 2024. This new microcode further improves system conditions that can potentially contribute to Vmin Shift Instability on...

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If your system is just for fun and games, go with 13900K. If the system is also occasionally used for other activities (work, personal data & finances etc) then go with 12900K.

 

[Sgraffite]

If the motherboard is high value, does that mean you can sell it for high value? Or it will be high value in the future for some reason? It seems like it would be a liability over time and not an asset, so given the opportunity to cash out it might make sense.

 

[ValidUsername]

If it's high value, it probably means the opposite. I could see that logic for limited editions, but again, we're talking about motherboards here.

Maybe something like EVGA's SR series, sure, but anything else, hardly worth considering as an investment. LEGO's arebetter for that

 

[aigomorla]

Some recommending keep EVGA Z690 DARK K|NGP|N because it's high value and invest into it.
Thanks.

without knowing what exactly the you need the system for, its like saying, that 67 corvette is a excellent value, and everyone recommends me holding onto it, even tho you need might need a pickup for day to day stuff. And well, i can pretty much gaurentee if u tried to use a 67 vette as a pickup truck, you will get dragged out into the street and most likely shot, then revived, and shot again some more.

Meaning that platform is a great for overclocking and gaming, but if it comes to productivity, it will get flat ironed by most of the zen6 cpu's in top tier gaming by a X3D, and productivity on a Ryzen 9.

But if u dont need that much prowess, then yeah, its a good value to invest, but invest and PC's don't go well together, as they devalue about as fast as cars do, unless you got that special chip.

 

[Ranulf]

I would go with a 12900k and completely avoid 13th/14th gen unless you feel daring and you get it dirt dirt cheap. As in, free.

 

[GEOrifle]

Maybe selling the board makes more sense as long it got some value and get rid of it.

 

[Thunder 57]

Maybe selling the board makes more sense as long it got some value and get rid of it.

It's a dead end socket the board value will likely only go down from here. I'd say keep it for the long term or sell it now to reinvest in something else.

 

[GEOrifle]

It's a dead end socket the board value will likely only go down from here. I'd say keep it for the long term or sell it now to reinvest in something else.

Thanks. I'm going to make sure it's fully working one and then sell it.
I guess 10-15 day will be good enough for it.